Comments on: Why are Matrifocal Societies Using Dual Currencies? https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/why-matrifocal-societies-use-dual-currencies/2010/09/03 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:47:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Michel Bauwens https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/why-matrifocal-societies-use-dual-currencies/2010/09/03/comment-page-1#comment-437621 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:47:23 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=10423#comment-437621 In reply to I can’t believe this trash has been published by the P2P Foundation.

I welcome challenges to Lietaer’s scholarship when they are grounded, and yours may be, or not. I’m presuming that Lietaer has studied it carefully though. However, Lietaer is absolutely not a marxist, not in any sense of the word, and none of the epithets you use to attack him make any sense in this particular context … and it is a shame that you mix dialogue with the kind of bile that your text is interspersed with. Normally, we filter personal attacks out, so please refrain from this style if you want to be published in the comments here.

Michel

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By: I can't believe this trash has been published by the P2P Foundation https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/why-matrifocal-societies-use-dual-currencies/2010/09/03/comment-page-1#comment-437590 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:31:05 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=10423#comment-437590 Another little bit of cultural marxist bullshit: anti-male, anti-white, anti-western. Male, white and western equals to WRONG and ERROR. What I love the most is the way these people just create out of thin air their narratives and then, in a very “deconstructionist”, “Critical Theory” way, push them forward as self-evident truths and historic facts which don’t need any external checking. It’s grotesque.

“All patriarchal societies in history have had the tendency to impose a monopoly of a single currency”: false. There have been thousands and thousands of very patriarchal societies with a lot of parallel currencies. And you just have to go to the Europe of XIXth, XVIIIth and XVIIth centuries to find a good bunch of them. Here we got the first obvious lie. The first paragraph is a complete lie, very much in the red style.

“This was the case, for instance, with the corn-backed currencies that lasted for well over a millennium in Dynastic Egypt that was one of the secrets of the wealth of that ancient society (Preisigke, 1910) (Lietaer, 2000)”: unadultered bullshit. You can’t “trade long distance” with peoples located far away with a currency backed by your own perishable and variable production of corn. It’s absurd. To create some sort of “new agish yin-yan-yon femimaniac” nonsense to explain that fact is too clownish even for a post-modern leftard.

“In a purely matriarchal society, the only role for a male would be procreation.”

So, I guess that when they use to talk (and condemn) each and every historic society considered “patriarchal”, they are acting so because in those societies “the only role for women was procreation”. It’s something troublesome to accept: even the taliban let the women take care of children and home.

“In a matrifocal society, it is a goddess or goddesses that play the most important roles, such as being a “Co-Creator” or a “Savior”. In comparison, in patriarchal societies it is invariably a male god that plays this role; and in monotheistic religions a single male God plays even all the divine roles. Examples of matrifocal societies include Dynastic Egypt (where Isis was the Savior)”

Isis was the archetypal wife and mother, very much in the same line as the Holy Lady in Catholicism and Orthodox Churches, but not alone in the “Age of the Cathedrals”. It is her role even today. There isn’t the slightest relationship between the number and importance of goddesses and a “dual” system of currencies. In fact, the roman pantheon was filled with goddesses and in the XVIIth century Europe the currency system was not “dual”, but actually “plural”, in that there were a lot of legal currencies in each territory. Isis was important, that’s for sure. But she was far less important than Ra or Osiris.

I’m simply tired of these freudo-marxist toxic poisonous crap sold as “scholarship”. Its only objective is to debunk and destroy each and every european or euro-derived society in the world. They wont stop till the last of us has gone the way of the dodo.

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