Comments on: The Urban Common Spaces That Show Us We Belong to Something Larger https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-urban-common-spaces-that-show-us-we-belong-to-something-larger/2017/05/06 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:52:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Simon Grant https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-urban-common-spaces-that-show-us-we-belong-to-something-larger/2017/05/06/comment-page-1#comment-1578838 Thu, 06 Jul 2017 11:52:55 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=65169#comment-1578838 I thought this was an interesting addition to thinking on urban common spaces:
https://aeon.co/essays/whats-the-best-way-to-find-common-ground-in-public-spaces

]]> By: Miguel Martinez https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-urban-common-spaces-that-show-us-we-belong-to-something-larger/2017/05/06/comment-page-1#comment-1578543 Sun, 07 May 2017 10:38:46 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=65169#comment-1578543 I wonder whether anybody can provide further information about the management of Gleisdreieck.
I see on the internet that it is a “large” area, with many facilities, at the same time I read here about fenced-in lots, etc.
Is it then an ordinary “public park”, with small allotments to individual initiatives?
In Italy, individual initiatives would however have a hard time surviving in a completely open space, at least in a large city, where everything depends on force: forceful dog owners vs angry moms vs adolescents who want to kick down a bush vs drug pushers vs police 🙂
This of course is the main practical problem, at least here, for community building starting from a public space.

]]> By: Stacco Troncoso https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-urban-common-spaces-that-show-us-we-belong-to-something-larger/2017/05/06/comment-page-1#comment-1578542 Sun, 07 May 2017 10:12:14 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=65169#comment-1578542 In reply to Miguel Martinez.

Thanks for the comment Miguel. For anyone not familiar with Niadici Garden, here’s a short article by David Bollier: The Nidiaci Garden of Florence, an Oasis of Commoning in a Busy City

]]> By: Miguel Martinez https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-urban-common-spaces-that-show-us-we-belong-to-something-larger/2017/05/06/comment-page-1#comment-1578541 Sun, 07 May 2017 07:46:51 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=65169#comment-1578541 We manage a community garden/park, with a small football field and playground for children, in the centre of Florence behind the Carmine church http://www.nidiaci.com.
Everything you write resonates very strongly, indeed it would be good if we could make an alliance of self-managed gardens around Europe.
I would add one important point: creating a community around a garden, means building it around ordinary families who have school-age children. This implies refocusing the whole idea of “community” as a positive, open idea of working together to build a future, rather than on defensively looking back to the past.
This is a crucial and creative way of avoiding the two pitfalls of “defensive identity” and “globalised anonymity” around which European politics now seems to revolve.

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