interview – P2P Foundation https://blog.p2pfoundation.net Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Thu, 25 Oct 2018 21:23:43 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 62076519 Upstream Podcast: A People’s History of Silicon Valley https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/upstream-podcast-a-peoples-history-of-silicon-valley/2018/10/31 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/upstream-podcast-a-peoples-history-of-silicon-valley/2018/10/31#respond Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:00:48 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=73214 The dark shadow of Silicon Valley is growing longer everyday, covering more and more of the globe and spreading not just technology, but a particular value set as well. By this time many know about the hyper-exploitative business models of companies like Uber or TaskRabbit. Or about how AirBnB has heavily reduced housing stocks in... Continue reading

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The dark shadow of Silicon Valley is growing longer everyday, covering more and more of the globe and spreading not just technology, but a particular value set as well.

By this time many know about the hyper-exploitative business models of companies like Uber or TaskRabbit. Or about how AirBnB has heavily reduced housing stocks in cities worldwide. But in his new book, Keith A. Spencer goes further than just picking on a few high profile companies. He lays out an argument for why Silicon Valley, at its core, is a highly exploitative and problematic industry. With a look at the tech world from the vantage point of the marginalized and oppressed—those who have not benefited from the incredible wealth bubbling up in the valley—”A People’s History of Silicon Valley: how the tech industry exploits workers, erodes privacy, and undermines democracy” presents a damning thesis for why this new world of addictive gadgets and union-busting is increasingly undemocratic and dangerous.

The book is published by Eyewear Publishing.

Upstream producer Robert R. Raymond spoke with Keith A. Spencer at the offices of Salon in San Francisco, where Spencer is an editor.

Intermission music is by The California Honeydrops.

Upstream is an interview and documentary series that invites you to unlearn everything you thought you knew about economics. Weaving together interviews, field-recordings, rich sound-design, and great music, each episode of Upstream will take you on a journey exploring a theme or story within the broad world of economics. So tune in, because the revolution will be podcasted. 

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Art, Debt, Health, and Care: an Interview with Cassie Thornton https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/art-debt-health-and-care-an-interview-with-cassie-thornton/2018/08/20 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/art-debt-health-and-care-an-interview-with-cassie-thornton/2018/08/20#respond Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:00:00 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=72303 Since the financial crash 10 years ago, we’ve learned that it tends to be everyday people, on the ground, who pick up the pieces and not governments. Millions have been dragged into poverty while those who caused the “crisis”, after creating dangerously high levels of private debt, remain unscathed. 1 The UK Conservative government’s response was an... Continue reading

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Since the financial crash 10 years ago, we’ve learned that it tends to be everyday people, on the ground, who pick up the pieces and not governments. Millions have been dragged into poverty while those who caused the “crisis”, after creating dangerously high levels of private debt, remain unscathed. 1 The UK Conservative government’s response was an Austerity policy, driven by a political desire to reduce the size of the welfare state. Amadeo Kimberly says, “austerity measures tend to worsen debt […] because they reduce economic growth.”2 The effect has been devastating, creating all together, more homelessness, precarious working conditions and thus pushing working communities, deeper into debt. In the UK, the NHS is being privatized as we speak. According to a CNBC report, medical bills were the biggest cause of bankruptcies in the U.S in 2013, with 2 million people adversely affected. 3

The work of artist and activist, Cassie Thornton is included in the upcoming Playbour– Work, Pleasure, Survival exhibition at Furtherfield, curated by Dani Admiss. In this interview I wanted to explore the following questions as revealed in her current Hologram project:

  • What do current conditions say about trust and care, and can we trust the current, governing systems to have our best interests at heart?
  • How do we produce non-hierarchical trust and care that thrives outside of the doctor/patient relationship, which is especially important in the U.S., where it is a profit making industry?
  • How do we reverse engineer all this tragedy, and put power back where it needs to be?
  • How do we begin to build solidarity?

Cassie Thornton is an artist and activist from the U.S., currently living in Canada. Thornton is currently the co-director of the Reimagining Value Action Lab in Thunder Bay, an art and social center at Lakehead University in Ontario, Canada.

Thornton describes herself as feminist economist. Drawing on social science research methods develops alternative social technologies and infrastructures that might produce health and life in a future society without reproducing oppression — like those of our current money, police, or prison systems.

Interview

Marc Garrett: Since before the 2008 financial collapse, you have focused on researching and revealing the complex nature of debt through socially engaged art. Your recent work examines health in the age of financialization and works to reveal the connection between the body and capitalism. It turns towards institutions once again to ask how they produce or take away from the health of the artists and workers they “support”. This important turn towards health in your work has birthed a series of experiments that actively counter the effects of indebtedness through somatic work, including the Hologram project.

The social consequences of indebtedness, include the formatting of one’s relationship to society as a series of strategies to (competitively) survive economically, alone, to pay the obligations that you has been forced into. It takes so much work to survive and pay that we don’t have time to see that no one is thriving. Those whom most feel the harsh realities of the continual onslaught of extreme capitalism, tend to feel guilty, and/or like a failure. One of your current art ventures  is the Holograma feminist social health-care project, in which you ask individuals to join and provide accountability, attention, and solidarity as a source of long term care.

Could you elaborate on the context of the project is, as well as the practices, and techniques, you’ve developed?

CT: Many studies show that the experience of debt contributes to higher levels of anxiety, depression, and suicide. Debt disables us from getting the care we need and leads us away from recognizing ourselves as part of a cooperative species: it is clear that debt makes us sick. In my work for the past decade, I have been developing practices that attempt to collectively discover what debt is and how it affects the imagination of all of us: the wealthy, the poor, the indebted, financial workers, babies, and anyone in-between. Under the banner of “art” I have developed rogue anthropological techniques like debt visualization or auxiliary credit reportingto see how others ‘see’ debt as an object or a space, and how they have been forced to feel like failures in an economy that makes it hard for anyone (especially racialized, indigenous, disabled, gender non-binary, or ‘immigrant’) to secure the basic needs (housing, healthcare, food and education) they need to survive, because it is made to enrich the already wealthy and privileged.

“The rise of mental health problems such as depression cannot be understood in narrowly medical terms, but needs to be understood in its political economic context. An economy driven by debt (and prone to problem debt at the level of households) will have a predisposition towards rising rates of depression.”4

After years of watching the pain and denial around debt grow for individuals and entire societies, I was so excited to fall into a ‘social practice project’ that has the capacity to discuss and heal some of this capital-induced sickness through mending broken trust and finding lost solidarity. This project is called the hologram.

MG: What kind of people were involved?

CT: The entire time I lived in the Bay Area I was precarious and indebted. I only survived, and thrived, because of the networks of solidarity and mutual aid I participated in. As the city gentrified beyond the imagination, I was forced to leave. I didn’t want to let those networks die. So, at first, the people who were involved were like me– people really trying to have a stake in a place that didn’t know how to value people over real estate and capital

The hologram project developed when, as I was leaving the city, I had invited a group of precariously employed, transient activists and artists to get together in the Bay Area for a week of working together. We aimed to figure out ways to share responsibility for our mutual economic and social needs. This project was called the “Intentional Community in Exile (ICE)” [the ICE pun was always there, now an ever more intense reference in the public eye] and it grew out of an opportunity offered by Heavy Breathing to choreograph an event at The Berkeley Art Museum. They allowed me to go above and beyond my budget to invite a group of 8 women together from across the US to choreograph methods of mutual aid: sharing resources, discussing common problems and developing methods for cooperating to co-develop an economic and social infrastructure that would allow us to thrive together, interdependently. What would it mean for our work as activists and artists to feel that we had roots within an intentional community, even if we didn’t have the experience of property that makes most people feel at home?

Miki Foster closing the ICE ritual called “dying in the eyes of the state”.

 

Members of ICE: Tara Spalty, Yasmin Golan, Miki Foster, Tori Abernathy, & Cassie Thornton.

 

Facebook event: “In departing from the idea of a long term home, family, property, or ownership, ICE models a mutual aid society to sustain creative and political practices within a hostile economic system. This project is about finding ways to exit economic precarity by building human relationships instead of accumulating capital– or to make exile warm. After a one week convergence of a small group of collaborators, ICE presents a discussion and performance of life practices as well as frameworks for material and immaterial mutual support.”

The Hologram was one of many ideas that developed as part of this project. One of the group members, Tara Spalty, founder of Slowpoke Acupuncture, (and one of the two acupuncturists you will see at SF protests or homeless encampments) and I fell into this idea when combining our knowledge about the solidarity clinics in Greece, our growing indebtedness and lack of medical records, and the community acupuncture movement. Then the group brainstormed about what the process would be like to produce a viral network of peer support.

MG: What inspired you to do this project? (particularly interested in the Greek influences here and what this means to you)

CT: My practice of looking at debt became boring to me by 2015 as it became more and more clear that individual financial debt was a signal of a larger problem that was not being addressed. The hyper individualism produced by indebtedness allows us to look away from a much bigger deeper story of our collective debts, financial and otherwise. We don’t know what to do with these much bigger debts, which include sovereign debts, municipal debts, debts to our ancestors and grandchildren, debts to the planet, debts to those wronged by colonialism and racism and more. We find it so much easier to ignore them.

When visiting austerity-wracked Greece after living in Oakland, I noticed that Oakland appeared to have far more homeless people on the street. It made me realize that, while we label some places “in crisis,” the same crisis exists elsewhere, ultimately created and manipulated by the same financial oligarchs. The hedge funds that profit off of the bankruptcy in Puerto Rico are flipping houses in Oakland and profiting off of the debt of Greece. We’re all a part of the same global economic systems. The “crisis” in Greece is also the crisis Oakland and the crisis in London. For this reason, I have been interested in what we can all learn from activists, organizers and others in crisis zones, who see the conditions without illusions.

This led me to an interest in the the Greek Solidarity Clinic movement, which since “the crisis” there has mobilized nurses, doctors, dentists, other health professionals and the public at large to offer autonomous access to basic health care. I went to go visit some of these clinics with Tori Abernathy, radical health researcher. Another project using this social technology is called the Accountability Model, by the anonymous collective Power Makes Us Sick. These solidarity clinics are run by participant assembly and are very much tied in to radical struggles against austerity. But they have also been a platform for rethinking what health and care might mean, and how they fit together. The most inspiring example for me was in at a solidarity clinic in Thessaloniki, the second largest city in Greece. The “Group for a Different Medicine” emerged with the idea that they didn’t want to just give away free medicine, but to rethink the way that medicine happens beyond conventional models, including specifically things like gender dynamics, unfair treatment based on race and nationality and patient-doctor hierarchies. This group opened a workers’ clinic inside of an occupied factory called vio.me as place offer an experimental “healed” version of free medicine.

When new patients came to the clinic for their initial visit they would meet for 90 minutes with a team: a medical doctor, a psychotherapist and a social worker. They’d ask questions like: Who is your mother? What do you eat? Where do you work? Can you afford your rent? Where are the financial hardships in your family?

The team would get a very broad and complex picture of this person, and building on the initial interview they’d work with that person to make a one-year plan for how they could be supported to access and take care of the things they need to be healthy. I imagine a conversation: “Your job is making you really anxious. What can we do to help you with that? You need surgery. We’ll sneak you in. You are lonely. Would you like to be in a social movement?” It was about making a plan that was truly holistic and based around the relationship between health, community and struggles to transform society and the economy from the bottom-up . And when I heard about it, I was like: obviously!

So the Hologram project is an attempt by me and my collaborators in the US and abroad to take inspiration from this model and create a kind of viral network of non-experts who organize into these trio/triage teams to help care for one another in a complex way. The name comes from a conversation I had with Frosso, one of the members of the Group for a Different Medicine, who explained that they wanted to move away from seeing a person as just a “patient”, a body or a number and instead see them as a complex, three dimensional social being, to create a kind of hologram of them.


MG: 
Could you explain how the viral holographic care system works?

CT: Based on the shape above, we can see that we have three people attending to one person, and each person represents a different quality of concern. In this new model, these three people are not experts or authorities, but people willing to lend attention and to do co-research, to be a scribe, or a living record for the person in the center, the Hologram. We call these three attendees ‘patience’. Our aim is to translate the Workers’ Clinic project to a peer to peer project where the Hologram receives attention, curiosity and long term commitment from the patience looking after her, who are not professionals. Another project using this social technology is called the Accountability Model, by the anonymous collective Power Makes Us Sick.

So the beginning of the process, like that of the Workers’ Clinic, is to perform an initial intake where the three patience ask the Hologram questions which are provided in an online form, about the basic things that help or hurt her social, physical and emotional/mental health. When this (rather extended) process is complete, the Hologram will meet as a group every season to do a general check in. The goal of this process is to build a social and a physical holistic health record, as well as to continue to grow the patience understanding of the Hologram’s integrated patterns.

Ultimately, over time we hope to build trust and a sense of interdependence, so that if the Hologram meets a situation where she has to make a big health decision (health always in an expansive sense) about a medical procedure, a job, a move, she will have three people who can support her to see her lived patterns, to help her ask the right questions, and to support peer research so that the Hologram is not making big decisions unsupported.

But, in order for the Hologram to receive this care without charge and guilt free, she needs to know that her patience are taken care of as she is. I think this is one part of the project that acknowledges and makes a practice built from the work of feminists and social reproductive theorists – you can’t build something new using the labor of people without acknowledging the work of keeping those people alive; reproducing the energy and care we need to overturn capitalism needs a lot of support. Getting support from someone feels so different if you know they are being, well taken care of. This is also how we begin to unbuild the hierarchical and authoritarian structures we have become accustomed to – with empty hands and empty pockets.

And then, the last important structural aspect of the Hologram project is the real kicker, and touches on the mystery of what it means to be human outside of Clientelist Capitalism – that the real ‘healing’ (if we even want to say it!) comes when the person who is at the center of care, turns outward to care for someone else. This, the secret sauce, the goal and the desired byproduct of every holographic meeting– to allow people to feel that they are not broken, and that their healing is bound up in the health and liberation of others.

The viral structure, is built into this system and there is a reversal of the standard way of seeing the doctor and patient relationship. In this structure it is essential that we see the work of the Hologram as the work of a teacher or explicator, delivering a case that will ultimately allow the patience to learn things they didn’t previously know. This is the most important, (though totally devalued by money) potent and immediately applicable, form of learning we can do, and it is what the medical system has made into a commodity, at the same time as it is seen as ‘women’s work’ or completely useless.

MG: Could you take us through the processes of engagement. For instance, you say a group of four people meet and select one person who will become a Hologram, and that this means they and their health will become ‘dimensional’ to the group. Could you elaborate how this happens and why it’s important for those involved?

CT: We are about to experiment, this fall, with what it means for these groups to form in different ways. We will start with four test cases, where an invited, self-selected person will become a Hologram. She will be supported to select three Patience in a way that suits her, based on an interview and survey. The selection of Patience is a part of the process that we have not had a chance to refine. It is not simple for any individual to understand what support looks like for them, or who they want support from, if they’ve never really had it.

The experiments we will work through this fall will attempt to understand what changes in the experience of the whole Hologram when the Hologram is supported by Patience who are trusted friends and family, acquaintances or highly recommended strangers. An ‘objective’ perspective from an outside participant also adds a layer of formality to the project, because, instead of a casual gathering of friends, an unfamiliar person signals to the other members of the hologram to be on time, and make the meetings more structured than a regular friend to friend chat.

The onboarding process for the Hologram and the Patience includes a set of conversations and a training ritual, which are still quite bumpy. The two roles every participant is involved in, requires a different set of skills, and so they both involve a special kind of “training” that one can do in a group or independently. This “training” is a structured personal ritual that allows participants to witness and adapt their own communication habits so that they feel prepared to participate and set up trust, curiosity and solidarity for the group in the opening intake conversations.

At the completion of the intake process, the Hologram (1) transitions to become a Patience. At this time, the Hologram (1) begins a short training to transition to the other role, and she is supported by her Patience to do this work. At the conclusion of the Hologram’s (1) transition to Patience, and the completion of the new Hologram’s (2) intake process, the original Hologram’s (1) Patience become Holograms (3,4,5).

MG: The Hologram project was first trialed as part of an exhibition called Sick Time, Sleepy Time, Crip Time at the Elizabeth Foundation Project Space in New York City, March 31-May 13, 2017. What have you learnt in more recent undertakings of The Hologram project?

CT: Since the original trial one year ago, which lasted for 3 months, the research has shifted to looking at building skills and answering acute questions that will accumulate to support and build the larger project. Starting in the Spring of 2017, I began to offer the Hologram project as a workshop, where participants could test the communication model that is implicit in the Hologram format. The method for offering it is, as a performance artist and rogue architect, creating a situation in a space where people go through a difficult psycho social physical experience together. In the reflective conversations that follow, I ask the groups to use the personal pronoun ‘we’ for the entire duration of the conversation. The idea is that one person’s experience can be shared by the group, and even as temporary Patience we can take a leap and share their experience with them for a duration of time, allowing a Hologram to feel as if their experience is “our” experience. And this feeling that one is not alone in an experience, if carried into other parts of life, has the potential to break a lot of the assumptions and habits that we have inherited from living and adapting to a debt driven hellscape.

  1. Graeber, David. The Newstatesman. We’re racing towards another private debt crisis –so why did no one see it coming? 18 August 2017. bit.ly/2we2Bv5
  2. Kimberly, Amadeo. Austerity Measures, Do They Work, with Examples. The Balance. 2018. thebalance.com/austerity-measures-definition-examples-do-they-work-3306285
  3. Amadeo, Kimberly. Medical Bankruptcy and the Economy: Do Medical Bills Really Devastate America’s Families? The Balance. Updated May 16, 2018. thebalance.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-4154729
  4. Davies, Will. Wallin, Sara. Montgomerie, Johnna. Financial Melancholia –Mental Health and Indebtedness. PDF Edition. 2015. perc.org.uk/project_posts/financial-melancholia-mental-health-and-indebtedness/

Reposted from Furtherfield.

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Holochain – The commons engine for cooperation at scale https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/holochain-the-commons-engine-for-cooperation-at-scale/2018/07/27 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/holochain-the-commons-engine-for-cooperation-at-scale/2018/07/27#respond Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:00:00 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=71919 By Oliver Sylvester-Bradley This article is the second part of our interview with Matthew Schutte, Communications Director at Holochain, which covers their plans to build a “Commons engine” to help provide co-ops with the tools they need to communicate, coordinate and cooperate at scale. In part two Matthew explains how Holochain enables “protocol” rather than... Continue reading

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This article is the second part of our interview with Matthew Schutte, Communications Director at Holochain, which covers their plans to build a “Commons engine” to help provide co-ops with the tools they need to communicate, coordinate and cooperate at scale.

In part two Matthew explains how Holochain enables “protocol” rather than “platform” cooperation,  by proving an “adaptable” framework which follows similar principles to the way we share language and culture – with huge benefits for collaboration. He goes on to define Distributed Public Key Infrastructure – the way in which Holochain approaches security – and how Holochain apps can be “bundled” and  customised to provide a user-centric experience.  Finally, he explains the timeline for Holochain and their concept for a “Protocol for Pluggable Protocols”.

Read part one of the interview, Holochain – the perfect framework for decentralised cooperation at scale, for the background and an explanation of how Holochain could enable the kind of open source operating system, like PLANET, which we hope to see come to fruition.


OSB: You mentioned that Holo is aiming to build a “Commons engine” – what can you tell us about that?

MS: We’ve previously talked about the fact that we’re launching two things: Holochain and Holo.

Holochain is a pattern for building peer-to-peer applications that don’t need a company in the middle. We’re giving it away to the world for free. It is a pattern, not a platform.

On the other hand, Holo is basically like Airbnb for web hosting.  If you have some spare computer storage and processing power on your laptop or desktop, for any of the holochain applications that you are participating in (running on your device) you can offer to serve webpages to visitors.  You set your own rate for that work and if your price and performance history is good enough for the developer (or the community) that is running that app to chose to rely on you as one of their hosts, Holo will send you web hosting work. When you do that work, the developer that you are doing it on behalf of will pay you in Holo fuel, a new asset-backed currency system that we designed.  Unlike most blockchain based crypto-currencies, Holo fuel is not token-based. Instead, Holo fuel is a mutual-credit currency – meaning that the supply can actually breathe. There are a few advantages to this design, but the big ones are that this currency design can handle huge volumes of transactions and can do so even if they worth less than a penny each. Today’s cryptocurrency designs can handle only tiny volumes of transactions (something like 10 per second for many of them) and are ridiculously expensive. The price of a single bitcoin transaction rose above $40 in January. Nobody is going to spend $40 to send someone a webhosting fee that amounts to a few pennies.

So basically, Holo fuel’s scale and efficiency is off the chart relative to other “currency” or accounting systems (technically, we think of it as a crypto-accounting system that is optimized for micro-transactions).  Mutual-credit currencies have been around for hundreds of years, but by using it in conjunction with Holochain we’ve unlocked some really interesting characteristics.

In addition, we’ve learned a bunch of lessons through our own fundraising process.  These are specific lessons around legal, banking, regulatory issues etc. The world is grappling with a change right now, and we’ve managed to get a bit of a feel for where all of that stands at present.

The goal with the Commons Engine is to help make use of this new economic engine (our mutual-credit crypto-accounting system) and our familiarity with the fundraising, banking and regulatory worlds to help a bunch of other communities bootstrap similar economy fostering engines into place. You can think of this as sharing our design with select communities that will apply it to their own context to help foster flows of resources among the participants in their community.

Because the design of our crypto-accounting architecture is an asset-backed one, it is dependent on there being assets that can back the currency. In our system, the asset backing the currency is web hosting capacity (and a demonstrated ability to deliver).  However, other communities might rely on this same architecture for instead fostering flows of electricity, or food, or elder-care or rideshares amongst peers.

The vision with the commons engine is to power a series of thriving commons based economies – picture things like peer-to-peer renewable electricity cooperatives, or ride sharing communities – by creating the technical infrastructure that enables contributions by participants to be recognized elsewhere within, and perhaps beyond, that community.

That ends up enabling flows of activity regardless of whether the community possesses traditional “money.”

In addition, we want to create sets of tools that co-ops can make use of to manage their affairs – communications, decision making etc. There are a handful of things that, regardless of the type of participatory community you’re in, it could be a food co-op or a co-housing community, you need to take care of similar patterns.

One of our goals as part of the Commons Engine is to have a “toolkit” of applications you can download and use and combine with one another to create an interoperable system. And we’re planning to give a bunch of this away for free.

OSB: That’s exactly what we’ve been hoping for! It sounds great – I keep hearing from people who say “we need to build a commons platform, we want to bolt together some existing open source tools, so that we’ve got some basic tools like asynchronous and synchronous chat, maybe some document storage and some social media etc”… and I answer “How are you going to do that? It’s going to be hard using LDAP, or similar to enable single sign on and to make these apps truly interoperable” – but what you’re proposing with Holochain seems like a much more suitable framework – could Holochain be what we need to enable cooperation 2.0?

MS: The big difference is this is not a platform. This isn’t about platform cooperativism, its actually about “protocol cooperativism”. “Platform” assumes there’s a thing at the centre. I want to make this demonstrable. Let’s use the simplest example I can, which is about language. Oli, give me a random word?

OSB: Sunshine

MS: OK, let me do the same – I’ll close my eyes… open them again… and Oh wow – “Skeleton”

OSB: The first thing you saw when you opened your eyes was a skeleton!? Now I’m worried. Where are you?

MS: I’m in Mexico – and I’m looking at a picture, of a skeleton.

OSB: Oh, OK! Carry on…

MS: So I’m going to call this the “sunshine-skeleton” chat. Now, if I ask you in 3 weeks do you remember the “sunshine-skeleton” chat you might say “yeah, I remember…” But, if i ask my Mum do you remember the “sunshine-skeleton” chat, she’ll say “What are you talking about?”

What happened there was that you and I just invented new language – a new shared reference. We mutually invented it.

Now, it could be that you invent new language – for a new part for a car, or a way of running, and if you share that new word we can use that to refer to something. But who owns it?

OSB: We do? Well, nobody does really…

MS: Right, ownership doesn’t have to do with use. It has to do with the ability to exclude others from using something. For example, when you own a property and rent it out, you have an ownership claim but no right to use it – the renter has a right to use it and that is contingent on paying rent etc but ownership isn’t about use – its about excluding others. This is really important.

We have a very property-focused society which has decided excluding others from using something is an important tool for how we’re going to steer… but it doesn’t have to be the tool we use for how we communicate.

Right now, when we think of apps, we think of them like places and properties to be owned, but apps (especially the ones we are creating) are really agreements between different parties about how to communicate with each other. Just like you and I agreed to refer to this conversation as the “sunshine-skeleton” conversation… In a peer to peer version of Twitter, where the users agree to structure their message as 140 characters, that’s just an agreement. So if someone tries to type 150 characters, other members of the community might say “No, that’s not an acceptable message”. But they don’t own it and they don’t own the app, they’re just deciding that “according to the rules, that I have agreed to play by, that doesn’t qualify, so I’m not going to store it or pass it along”. That community is able to govern itself without having to create or rely on ownership at the communication level. There doesn’t have to be any resources at the communication and application level. This could be just an agreement – to use this specific way of structuring information to communicate with one another.

So, the reason I bring this up – and why it’s so important is that most folks in the Platform Co-op World look at Uber and Airbnb and say “We could do that too! Wouldn’t it be great if it was owned by the riders and drivers.” But they’re accidentally importing assumptions about ownership and what is needed there – which creates concentrations of power automatically.

They say “Yeah, ok, you might have an admin team but we’ll be able to vote them out if they misbehave…” But, nonetheless, this concentrates power – and it actually has some significant drawbacks…

The main one is that experiments tend to be “whole group wide”.  Whereas if we treat an application more like a language (something that happens to be held by both of the communicators), any two parties can decide to try something different, and if out works for them, cool – maybe it will spread. They don’t need the entire community to go along with it. They are able to try things out on their own and build experience. That enables the community to experiment with new ways of communicating, new ways of coordinating. And the things that work, they propagate – and the things that prove to be a waste of time – people will decide not to copy that one… or they stop using it.

Language is highly adaptable because it’s stored holographically – it’s stored holographically inside the brains and the bodies of each of the participants – and language adapts readily because any person who says “we need a new word for something”, they can come up with that word –  and anyone else who says “oh, that’s so great, that’s really useful” they can start using it. So changes can be tried and spread and at every step of the propagation its spread is dependent on it being useful – functional for those users.

That’s how we hold language – it’s why languages is adaptable.

It’s also how we hold culture – the beliefs and expectations about appropriateness in a given situation. Which means they vary from person to person.

If someone tries something new – like staying in a stranger’s home after they have booked a room on a website – if it works out well they might tell some friends about – and if those other people try it and have a good experience too – that new expectation might spread – that “culture” might change.

We saw this over the last decade with the rise of the sharing economy companies… The culture shifted and it shifted rapidly – that’s because culture is held holographically – it lives in the brains and the bodes of the participants. Holographically means that each party sees the whole from their own experience and perspective. The technical phrasing we generally use is “each part perceives the whole but from its own perspective”.

If we make the way that we hold applications “opt in”, and individually held – the way that we do language and the way that we do culture – we will gain the adaptive advantages of holographic storage.

The main point I want to get across is, for communication and coordination, we don’t have to keep running cooperative organisations as if they are just corporations but also with voting – we don’t have to adopt the top down structures of the corporate world. It’s not that they aren’t appropriate anywhere but they aren’t needed for layers of communications. There are ways we can do the communications infrastructure that doesn’t have to have the centralisation of power or accumulation of assets at that group layer.

By forgoing that – by actually running cooperatively, we gain huge advantages, in terms of our ability to adapt to circumstances in a world that is increasingly volatile, uncertain, complex and ambiguous.

That is the difference that makes a difference – your ability to adapt is the key thing that gives a group not just a competitive advantage, but a collaborative advantage.

OSB: Cool, I get that. But I want to take a step back and make sure we really explain your ideas as best we can. So how would you see an Uber alternative which was structured more organically, following the language example and the  “protocol co-operativism” model you mentioned?

MS: With platform co-ops, you end up creating, not just a way for people to communicate, but a layer at which value or resources accumulate – and then you figure out how to manage that accumulation – how to distribute it. That’s the traditional structure of sharing economy applications.

Platform co-ops have basically proposed “Hey, what if it wasn’t a bunch of venture capitalists that owned it, it was us that owned it?” But they’re basically running the same model. You end up having 95% of the shortcomings that you have in the old model. You may have handled some of the misalignment of interests shortcomings of the old model, but you haven’t addressed the “inability to handle complexity” issues.  They are still there.

The alternative is to do applications the way we do language.

Let’s say right now you have a bunch of different services – combined together to do something like ride sharing. So people have phones with GPS – that transmit a signal – that’s available to drivers. And drivers transmit a signal saying that they can drive… And riders may even include where they are going to… So there’s a layer within Uber or Lyft or whatever, which matches riders with potential drivers. And they match a pair and give the driver 10 seconds to accept “Do you want to pick up this ride?”. And the driver goes “yup” or “no”. Those are all signals, all of these things are different little grammars. Different forms of information.

Another one is matching the requests with the offers – its automatic, the party in the middle, usually through an automated process, decides what to do if that driver doesn’t respond – which other driver to offer the ride to.

Now, if you wanted you could run that instead as several different apps – not one. Several combined into one.

There’s another layer to this – the ratings dance – after the ride, both parties rate each other and maybe make a comment – leave a tip – and do the payment thing – all these layers are currently integrated into one app. But they don’t have to be.

Matching riders with drivers could be separate to payments, separate to ratings – on the backend, that could be its own little app.

And it might be that there’s a general ratings thing that everyone is using, but there’s also custom ratings communities.  So if you’re somebody who’s really sensitive to smell, you might want to pay attention to “Does the car smell bad?”. That’s probably not something that the community wants to subject every user to. Not everyone cares about ratings about smell! That’s OK, but for the folks who do care – they’re going to be glad that they can access the knowledge from the other folks that care about smell.

That could be its own little app.

So with Holochain, because you run the apps on the devices of the users themselves – each user can take a bunch of different apps and combine them together. So, I could be using this application on Holochain – looking for a ride and after the ride offer hits my device, my device can pull additional information from other apps that I am also running: about how is the smell is the car? How talkative is the driver? How safe did his driving feel to the passengers? etc

So, there may be five different things that I’m paying attention to – and maybe I opt not to accept the ride. But you, Oli, on the other hand – you don’t care about any of those things. You see that he has 4.2 or whatever, and that’s good enough for you, so you book the ride.

This is different from the Platform Cooperativism model because instead of there being a layer where assets are accumulating – all we have is some mutual alignment in how we communicate.

OSB: Let’s be clear, when you say “assets are accumulating” you mean, funds in the main Uber “master account”?

MS: Yes, but you could have a payment application that’s an entirely different app. With Holo host, we do have a company account – but you could run a  mutual credit currency on Holochain without any central organisational account. You could have a completely distributed mutual credit currency. We wanted to fuel improvements in that Holo system and to also use revenues from there to subsidize the larger holochain ecosystem, so we are charging a fee when people use Holo.  Of course, unlike Uber or Airbnb or Apple, we aren’t charging 20 or 30%. For both creating the marketplace and running the payment processing, we are charging less than traditional systems charge for just payment processing.

OSB: Remind our readers, how much does Holo charge when someone sends Holo fuel?

MS: One percent or less.  And we expect that despite charging so little, that this will be enough to get this Holochain ecosystem off of the ground.

OSB: So I can kind of see what’s going to happen, you’re going to have all these little apps running on Holo – and presumably we’ll be able to pay in Holo fuel for stuff …

MS: That’s one way. But we also think people are going to come up with lots of other currencies for their own communities. Holo fuel will be one, and it will be an early one so it will probably be wide spread, but people are going to come up with their own.

We think of currencies as just some way of recognising some specific form of contribution.

OSB: OK, so we could have our own currency, just based on an agreement between you and me – but if we’re going to want to grow our network to make our currency more useful – we’re going to need more people – and we’re going to need a wallet to store it in. Are you going to have a specific wallet for managing currencies?

MS: Those things will certainly evolve. Holo host is its own application and Holo fuel is a big part of that application. But we’re not dealing with tokens. It’s mutual credit – So we just count all of the additions and subtractions from your account. Your balance is going to be the sum of all those inflows and outflows – to which you maintain private access – to have the ability to send funds, by holding on to a private key. But we’re not planning on building a multi-currency wallet, at the moment.

OSB: OK, so if we wanted to exchange “Co-op coins” we’d need to develop our own app?

MS: Yeah. And that is partly what the Commons Engine is focused on, by helping a number of different communities develop crypto-accounting systems that foster flows of assets and activities within their own community.

OSB: OK, so what about the login system? I see that Resonate and Rchain have partnered with LifeID, which seems to have given them quite a clever method of managing identity – Does Holo have something similar?

MS: We’re building something called DPKI – which is a Distributed Public Key Infrastructure. I’ll try to keep this brief, as I could go way into the weeds on this one!

Designing distributed systems for the internet is the way I’ve spent the last five years of my life – and to be blunt: most people in that space are doing it wrong. They’re trying to provide THE THING that will be your digital identity.

OSB: Sure, everyone wants to do that!

MS: Right, but it turns out that’s not what identity is. Identity is always in the eye of the beholder – so “who I am”?  If you really want to get at what that question is about, is “who am I, to you”? Who am I in your eyes – and only the information that has reached your eyes and your ears, is going to influence how you behave with me.

At the end of the day the root of identity is correlation; The ability to relate one piece of information with another.

You could bump into a guy and talk about football, then see him again the next day. But if you don’t have correlation – if I don’t realises he’s the same guy, there’s no ability to benefit from the previous interaction. You have to start all over again. Imagine if every time someone met you they introduced themselves again. It would be kinda awkward.

The ability to remember things and to correlate them with one another is core to identity.  “This is Tim. I talked to Tim yesterday. Tim likes football.”

So identity is always in the eye of the beholder – that doesn’t mean it’s not important to do wallet management – and things like that, but it’s different than it’s usually pitched. It’s usually pitched as “This (number in our system or our blockchain or whatever) will be your identity”.

But what we’re really talking about here is how can you reliably be able to create correlations between your past and your present for others, in ways that they find credible? How can I make it so that you believe that that my hospital has confirmed that I am 18, not just that someone is 18.

There’s another layer here. Most of the folks in that space saying “We’ll be the one place where you can come to for ID… blah blah blah” – but there’s another layer which they overlook. What happens if someone breaches that layer? What happens if that gets compromised?

OSB: Good point.

MS: The basic gist is – there’s no such thing as perfect security – it doesn’t exist.

Security alone is this really ambiguous concept. It basically means how do you prevent failure. Well, there are all sorts of ways to fail – everything you do to reduce your risk involves a delegation, some sort of reliance on a process, or person or system – to make you safer – and as a result – you add in some potential vulnerability there.

If I rely on my memory for my password and don’t have any backup – and get hit with a rock on the head and develop amnesia – I’m not able to access any of my passwords anymore – I haven’t adequately spread my risk. Now, if I pass all my password information to my Mum, she can impersonate me – or someone who steals that information from her can impersonate me. But if instead I break the password information into parts and hand parts of it to my friends Billy and Vinay – and I go to six of my other friends and I say “Hey, if anything ever happens to me, these are the people who have the different parts”, that changes things a bit – makes it more difficult to breach. It doesn’t make it impossible. But if there’s no indication that the specific data is a bit of a password, for me – there’s no note alongside it saying what it’s for, it’s just living in their memory and mine – then it’s even less likely to be breached. But there’s always trade offs…

OSB: So that distributed way is how Holo hopes to manage security, by distributing it out… Kinda like the Web Of Trust?

MS: Yeah, the Web Of Trust is wonderful – it’s just never worked, at least not for normal folks. It’s too technical.

OSB [Laughs]: Isn’t that just because it’s never been done properly?

MS: Well… I mentioned I’ve been doing digital identity system for a long time. Two or three years ago a friend of mine started a group called Rebooting the Web of Trust – Arthur Brock and I were part of the original 40 people – and the whole focus was designing distributed identity systems for the internet, that actually work.

Right now that whole community is all wrapped up in blockchain stuff –  They’ve got themselves down, what I would consider, a dead end. They’re telling themselves “Yes – there’s this immutable truth we can get from a blockchain!”

But they’re missing all of the nuance …. it’s only immutable until a breach happens there – and you realise everything is lost and you haven’t built resilience into your systems.

We don’t think that there’s “one right way”. For us it’s really important that individuals go, “You know what – I’m going to handle this bit of risk this way.”

OSB: Makes sense.

MS: But I didn’t actually explain what DPKI is… When I’m running a Holochain application – and I’m using a pseudonym in that app like, Billy7. In another application I could be logged in as a completely different pseudonym, Sally4.

OSB:  You’re going to allow that?

MS: Absolutely, we think it’s really important to allow people to show up exposing only the information about themselves that they want to expose. Other people, or apps, might demand you show up with a certain amount of reputation. Some history, from somewhere.  In that case, it’s up to you to decide whether or not you want to share some specific bit of history, share something else or forgo entering into that particular community or relationship.

So let’s say we have two apps: The ride sharing app and the specific ratings app focused on how smelly was the car. And I’m showing up as two different people in these apps. I can sign a statement using my private keys, stating that I’m the same guy – thus creating the possibility for someone to check that Sally4 is Billy7. “Finkle is Einhorn…Einhorn is Finkle…

OSB: Errrr “Einhorn is Finkle…”?

MS: Sorry. It’s old movie reference from Ace Ventura: Pet Detective. Anyway, long story short – so you’re able to make these bridges, you can do that without any separate tool. No company needs to be involved.

Someone who is running the ratings app would also have to be running the ride sharing app – or know someone who has access to check the signature. “Was that really signed by Billy7”?  If it was – if they do have some sort of relationship then you can check it and, cool, we built a correlation between these two apps that enabled someone who is running both of those apps to import their history from the ride sharing app into the ratings app to build a bridge and credibly establish that that’s me. Now it’s up to the other parties whether they decide to rely on that but most of them will probably say “ok, that looks good to me”.

All of this (the ability to bridge between identities in different systems) is actually baked into Holochain as is.

DPKI solves a slightly different problem.  DPKI has to do with the question of “What if I want to change my key?”. Basically, it enables people to declare early on in their use of a system how they intend to revoke or replace a key should the need arise later on, and gives them some mechanisms for communicating about that.

Say I’m running this app and my key gets compromised somehow – How do I change the key? Now, in most of these systems they go “Oh! You just trust us, the company! We’ll create a new key for you.” But you’ve accidentally centralised power again. With Distributed Public Key Infrastructure, when you set up your key initially you indicate what the process is by which you’re going to be able to revoke that key – or replace that key. You decide. And that process could be “this key trumps this other key”… or “if 3 of my 7 family members go through this process”… or “I trust this company”. There’s a number of patterns you can run here, but how you allocate that responsibility – i.e. how you manage that risk, is up to you.

Now it’s up to the other parties whether they find your replacement credible but most of the time they will probably say “ok, that looks good to me”.

However, if you see someone change their key 3 seconds before they ask you to wire them £10million – you’re probably not going to send it, you’re going to back up a moment and do some extra things to check and make sure everything is kosher.

OSB: I get it.

MS: There’s the real world of bodies and these information system – and we’re trying to figure out how can your bridge those two worlds in a specific context – so the parties that are interacting find it trustworthy. And that’s going to be different in different contexts.

OSB: Right

MS: If we’re launching nuclear weapons we’re going to have much higher security protocols than if we’re sending a text message.

OSB [Laughs]: I hear you! Hopefully we won’t be launching any nukes. I wanted to ask about bundling apps. My question is about running a specific co-op. You mentioned that you were building tools for co-ops… So, say we run a maker space – we’d need some obvious tools straight away: we’d need our synchronous and asynchronous comms, our document space so people can work on shared files – we’d need payments…

MS: You’d need to be able to track if people had paid membership dues… and hours used and available on the machines…

OSB: Exactly, so my question is, if I was to use the Holo tools – would I need to form a legal organisation outside of Holo in order to be incorporated and use the Holo tools or could I actually just assemble a group of predesigned apps in my Holo workspace and say “You know what, we’re not actually going to incorporate as a legal entity at all, we’re going to use the Holo system, everybody who wants to transact with us, log on there?”

MS: Yes, that’s very much our intention. In the Maker-space example – if there are physical assets they’re controlling, there may need to be some kind of legal entity. Simply because the state won’t recognise your property rights otherwise… But let’s make it a distributed make space – it exist in the garages and basements of the various members – Jim has a lathe and Marcus, three doors down, has a laser cutter, Philip has welding equipment – all these different people with their own property who’ve decide to cooperate. Let’s assume they’re not collecting fees – so some of the things you would need now would be “What are the hours of availability for a specific resource?”, “What’s the status of that machine?”, “Is it in working order or in need of repair?”. And you’d probably want some way of recording time, “I want to book for this hour”. You want some way of either organising maintenance or recognising people who have done maintenance. You’d probably want to track usage – how much are you using other peoples equipment… etc

Every one of those layers you could run as a Holochain app – and you could have them all interacting with one another as if, from your perspective, it was a single Holochain app. Even though on the backend, each one is its own separate community.

OSB: Right, so in order to deliver that experience to the users of the Maker-space gang – someone is going to have to bundle all the little apps together. Presumably there’s going to be some simple tools like task management, people management, equipment management, maintenance management… And as more and more Holochain apps become available presumably they will act as further building blocks… So if someone wants to start a Co-op and we know already there are existing Holochain apps which do elements of the things we want, how do we go about bundling them together and delivering the services we want?

MS: Right, you could bundle them all together – and your users would download your bundle – that makes all those different micro applications into one meta application – so users access the micro apps through the meta application and that would give them a useful starting point. But if any of the user want to add to this – they can customise it – they would be able to change things to better suit their needs over time.

OSB: OK. But, let’s be clear on that, how would they go about customising the “meta app” – or pulling new elements into it?

MS: Let’s say that some of the members are really into 3D printing – but its really annoying to be changing the spool of thread all the time – so instead they agree to just keep track of how many minutes of printing you did – and charge you for that. And that could be via a separate payment system application – which might be doing all of that settlement in a cryptocurrency like Holofuel. Settling fees directly between members without any assets being held at the application layer – there’s no ownership that needs to happen there. My point here is, if you and I were running the 3D printing cost sharing app as part of our larger distributed Maker community app – it would just be a part of that app for us. But other people may not necessarily make use of it – they might not know it was there – but they might be offered it when they updated the app.

For us that’s really important – for the community to be able to innovate in disjointed ways. For you to go off and try something new and if it works to keep doing it… And for me to go off and try something new and if it works I might keep using it. But we don’t all have to be running the same thing as each other in order to communicate. As long as we’re running some layers – as long as some of the layers are in alignment then we’re able to communicate through those channels.

OSB: I’m getting it. But, not everyone is a coder, so if I decide I want to add a new kind of rating – how would I do that? And if everyone’s got all all these customisations, how do other people find out about them?

MS: Well, if you have people communicating with one another – in the Maker-space example they’re literally going over to other people’s houses, so they’d say “Hey have you tried this yet?”. That’s how most things spread, but we’re planning to create an app store – of Holochain apps. That’s not going to be the only way to get a Holochain app – You could build an app and just share it with your friends. You could even build your own apps store but because the Holochain app store will be the first it will probably be the most populated.

As a little time goes by, we’ll work to make it easier for ordinary people to take a new app and pull it into an existing app – That could get to the point where it’s almost drag and drop.

There’s all sorts of things that we’re planning on doing in the next couple of years – based on work we have previously done at Ceptr – which will make connecting protocols really easy. But, right now, we’re not quite there.

That’s actually how we spent the bulk of the last 10 years – we spent 7 years working on creating automatically interoperable systems – mapping out how to build and building this kind of “hyper-interoperable future”.

OSB: What is the timescale for all of this – It sounds like the Holy grail when you talk about co-op tools being drag and drop like that – How soon are we going to be able to play with this stuff and how soon will we be able to use it with vengeance?

MS: People are building Holochain apps right now. We’re hoping in the next few months to have some of basic chat tools come out as Holochain apps.  We’re “dog fooding” – meaning we’re using the tools we are building because we have a distributed team – and that has its own headaches… So there’s a tool we’re working on right now which we’re calling “Abundance of presence” – it’s about trying to make it feel like we’re all together even though we’re spread across the world.

But in terms of interoperable apps – for the geeky folks in a few months – then end of the year – a decent number of larger applications starting to get used. For the non-geeky folks – it will probably be at least 6 months – and mid to late next year before people who are non-geeky are changing applications easily.

Hopefully in the following years, we’ll be having the next layers coming out – the first slice of that is coming from the Ceptr project – what we’re calling a “Protocol for Pluggable Protocols” (P3) – we worked on this a few years ago and got to a prototype and proved that it worked. Then we stepped away to go and build Holochain. The Protocol for Pluggable Protocols is way more complicated than Holochain, but we think it takes us another big leap forward. But for now, people having control over their own ways of communicating is a critical step, and that’s what we’re enabling with Holochain.

So long story short, Holochain is powerful now. It gives those who use it a big collaborative advantage – and in the coming years, additional projects should improve that advantage even more.

Our hope is that this results in ways of coordinating with one another that are not only more effective, but more human as well; That this enables us to coordinate at even very large scales, but in ecosystemic ways rather than hierarchical ways. That should give these new communities big learning advantages over traditional forms of organization, and with luck, might actually start to shift humanity away from some of the erosive patterns that have been creating downward spirals for so long, and instead start making use of much more regenerative patterns.

But we’re running short on time. The old economic models have been so destructive. We’re putting in the work to try to shift to a more thriving paradigm. One that works better for people and for planet. It’s not a guarantee that it will work, but for those of us in the Holochain community we don’t really feel like we have a choice. We have to try. Fatalism is seductive, but not very useful – and honestly, not very fun.

For me personally, and for others on the team as well, this work has felt like a life’s calling for well over a decade. This is a grand challenge, and it feels consequential. It’s been an incredible journey thus far and I’m really looking forward to the work to be done and the lessons to be learned alongside all these other wonderful communities over the coming years.

Thanks for bringing so many good people together for OPEN 2018, Oli! I’m really excited for the event!


Matthew and Art, from Holochain, will both be speaking at OPEN 2018 in London on the 26th and 27th of July.

Photo by torbakhopper

 

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Holochain is a new technology project with huge potential for the cooperative economy.

Members of The Open Co-op have been promoting the idea that new software could, potentially, revolutionise both our failing democracies and our predatory capitalist economies, since 2004. Back then we weren’t quite so clear on exactly how the required information architecture should be designed – but we knew what we wanted it to do and how it should work. In 2004, I published a paper entitled Participatory Democracy Networks, which explained how I thought some new information architecture could facilitate participatory democracy worldwide.

The above diagram illustrates the undemocratic nature of the current system and the required power relationships of a truly democratic system. The extent to which any ‘player’ controls any other is represented by the extent to which its colour encapsulates any other. For example, in the current situation individuals influence business to some extent (by buying things) and the government to some extent (by voting) but do not control them, individuals only control the NGOs.

Not long after that we founded The Open Co-op and designed some screenshots of our “dream communication system” which we called PlaNet, to illustrate how the new software we wanted might work, and developed a presentation using some fictional cartoon characters to illustrate how a system like PlaNet could help people live together in a collaborative sustainable economy.

In 2017 we updated the PLANET screenshots – presenting the idea as An open source operating system for a collaborative, sustainable economy incorporating a range of interlinked apps on a smart phone. PLANET is still not a software project, it remains a vision which aims to illustrate some of the concepts and advantages of a collaborative, user owned and managed economic platform.

The purpose of the PLANET concept is to illustrate, through a Graphical User Interface, what it might be like to interact with a new economic system which has been built collaboratively as an open source project. PLANET would be owned and controlled by its members, giving them complete control over how it is run via proposals, and votes on other members’ proposals. PLANET incorporates concepts such as: Agent-centric architecture, Personal data licenses, Portable reputation, Alternative currencies, Group management, Local relevance and Delegative voting – all the same ideas we were proposing in 2004 to help build participatory democracy networks.

So, for 12 years PLANET has remained a dream. And then we discovered Holochain.

Whilst everyone has been getting very excited about the potential of blockchain we have remained skeptical for a variety of reasons;

  1. You cannot store all the data in the world in a blockchain
  2. The blockchain is a spectacular waste of energy that could instead be used to improve the quality of life for millions of people around the world – just see the insane energy consumption of Bitcoin. If growth continues at the present pace, researchers estimate that Bitcoin mining alone would consume more power in 2020 than the entire world does today.
  3. A system that is designed to enable total anonymity is actually not very appropriate for building collaborative, trust-based systems and organisations.

Sometimes technology gets over-hyped and there’s a growing body of evidence explaining why you don’t need to use blockchain. This paper by Karl Wüst and Arthur Gervais from the Department of Computer Science in Zurich, gives a good outline of whether a blockchain is the appropriate technical solution to solve a problem.

flow chart to determine whether a blockchain is the appropriate technical solution to solve a problem – Karl Wüst & Arthur Gervais

Whilst blockchain has and is being used on some great projects, this amazing story from inside a Jordanian refugee camp that runs on blockchain to help Syrian refugees regain legal identities that were lost when they fled their homes, is the perfect example of how the technology is failing to deliver. To quote the conclusions “the transactions were slow and the fees were too high” … ” so “Instead of cutting the banks out of the equation, [the World Food Programme] has essentially become one”. Haddad, who runs the programme acknowledges that—“Of course we could do all of what we’re doing today without using blockchain…”. But, he adds, “my personal view is that the eventual end goal is digital ID, and beneficiaries must own and control their data.”

Owning and controlling your own data. That’s what we want. That’s the fundamental idea behind PLANET.

But trying to force a system like blockchain, which was designed to enable anonymous transactions, to help you own and control your own data is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Wouldn’t it be better to start with a system which is specifically designed to enable you to own and control you own data? That also, by design, encourages trust between peers and, as well as that, enables giant volumes of transactions at low transaction costs?

That’s what Holochain does. And it does it very well.

Whilst some people have been embarrassing humanity by creating mind-numbing concepts such as Crypto-kitties and trying to force tomatoes on a blockchain, the team at Holo have been figuring out the fundamental information architecture for a new, sustainable, collaborative and cooperative economy. Such a valiant and laudable mission is clearly not for the faint-hearted and the Holo team brings together brains such as Eric Harris-Braun, Arthur Brock, Jean Russell, Jean-François Noubel, and Matthew Schutte to name just a few. They are an incredible group of system-thinkers whose ideas have evolved out of the metacurrency project and CEPTR and synergised as Holochain, a new applications framework that they are giving away to the world for free.  To help subsidize that effort, they are also launching the first flagship application built using Holochain, a peer-to-peer web hosting platform, confusingly named Holo host, for which they recently raised over $20 million through a crowdfunding campaign and an Initial Community Offering.

In order to explain what Holochain is, how it works and why co-operators everywhere should take note, we interviewed Matthew Schutte, their Director of Communications.

OSB: What is Holo in layman’s terms?

MS: Holo is a peer to peer app hosting marketplace. Today app hosting is the domain of big business. If a developer builds an app, they serve it via a hosting company like Amazon or Google and pay to use their big data warehouses – huge sever farms which present the app to end users. Holo makes it possible for normal folks to make use of the idle storage and processing capacity on their computers to get into that business… For example, when I’m writing an email, my machine is doing some work but it has the capacity to do 1000 times more work – so HOLO enables you to rent some of that extra capacity.

OSB: OK, that sounds great, but I can imagine people worrying it might slow down their computers. Is that something users will need to think about?

MS: You can set your own parameters. You can specify the settings for how much of your machine you allocate to Holo – Our goal is to prioritise your use over Holo’s use (although this may not be included in the initial version at launch) so you never get slowed down. Some people will be dedicating whole machines to Holo hosting… but if you’re using Holo on your main computer you don’t want it to be annoying… you just want it to make use of the spare capacity. If it’s reducing your quality of life – that’s not a cost most people are going to be willing to pay.

OSB: Will it be secure? I can imagine people worrying that if a Holo service or app is running in the background on their computer then maybe it can access parts of their machine that they don’t want people to see.

MS: Yes, it’s secure. It only has the ability to interact with certain parts of your computer. This is similar to the way in which a web site can change pixels on your screen but can’t read your private files. Technically it’s called “sandboxing”. Holo will use a cordoned off section of your computer. We’re not inventing new stuff there, the technology to do this securely has existed for a long time.

OSB: Will people need a special computer, or a certain specification of computer to run Holo?

MS: No. Any Mac or PC, desktop or laptop will work but mobile devices are slower and so not so suitable for serving websites to others.

OSB: Why would someone want to host HOLO apps on their computer? How is that going to help build a collaborative, sustainable economy?

MS: It’s kind of like the way AirBnb and Uber work. Their model enables them to make use of spare bedrooms – to help people pay off their mortgages. Holo makes use of the spare space and processing power of your computer to help you pay for your internet connection and maybe even the cost of the computer itself…

There is a massive amount of unused computing power in the world, more than any one company controls… Amazon is king of hosting at the moment, though there are others that are neck and neck, like IBM and Google.

Amazon is the third most valuable company on the planet and their web hosting division, Amazon Web Services (AWS) makes up 10% of Amazon’s revenues but more profit than the entire rest of the company combined. App hosting is the cash cow of the third most most valuable company on the planet!

Holo is aiming to do to Amazon’s cash cow what Uber did to Taxis – but instead of taking 20 or 30% of the money from the drivers (like Uber does) with Holo 99% of the revenues go straight to the host who’s computer is doing the work.  Holo takes a 1% or less transaction fee.

OSB: I see, so Holo has the potential to disrupt the hosting industry and divert money back to the people who join the network and host apps on their computers. But, if you’ve invented a way to do that why wouldn’t you take more than 1%?

MS: We don’t need it – because we’re distributing everything… just like Airbnb was able to grow from two guys with air mattresses to a company that books more rooms than any other… because they didn’t have to build and own locations – we’re catalysing existing assets instead. We’ve invented a really efficient accounting system – and a 1% transaction fee is our business model for Holo. And that helps subsidize the larger Holochain ecosystem. This is just a first step in a larger plan to shift how humanity communicates.

OSB: OK, I thought so – there’s clearly more lurking under the hood! But before we dive into that I want to take a step back and try and get a real understanding of what Holochain is and how this idea works. You’ve told us a bit about Holo, which is a Holochain app.  Can you explain the technology behind Holochain itself a bit more?

MS: Sure. Peer to peer app hosting is not a new idea. Just like BitTorrent offers peer to peer file sharing, Holochain makes use of some of the same technology.

A few decades ago people realized that it would be useful to be able to store a file on a network of computers, but not have to depend on having any single computer be up and running at a particular time in order to access them.  Note that with the web, when you look up a website, you are looking up content based on which machine it is stored on. That means that if that machine goes down, you can’t access that content. That kind of sucks. It’s also a major reason why most people don’t host their own websites anymore.  If for any reason your computer goes down, no one can reach your website. This “server maintainer as second job” thing was a pain in the neck, so most folks opted to pay others to “do that hosting work.”

With BitTorrent, it’s different. When you reach out for a file, you don’t ask for a specific machine. You ask for the file. Other machines on the network share information about which files are stored where. Within a split second, you’ve got your file (or at least have started to download it). This even works if every computer that originally received the file has since gone offline.  That’s because if a computer notices that one of its neighbors has gone offline, it starts making backups by recruiting new machines to hold onto a copy of that file.

For example, if I send a tweet – it might get stored by 200 different computers. If one drops offline, the system looks for others to make backup copies to ensure 200 copies remain online – these nodes are “gossiping” with each other – if they don’t hear back when they check in with the ‘Oli node’, they say “oh no, we lost him!” and then look for the next nearest node (what “nearness” means is a bit too technical for this interview). Jimmy is the nearest – so they get Jimmy’s node to make a copy to ensure 200 copies stay online. It’s like a self healing network.

That’s great for file storage – but not to run apps, you can’t run Airbnb like that. You can’t run Uber like that.  Apps need to build sets of relationships and transform resources. Holochain takes the file sharing concept and adds more functionality. Borrowing from three different technologies in the process:

  1. From BitTorrent – self healing storage, the Distributed Hash Table (DHT)
  2. From Blockchain and other things – the concept of an immutable, unchangeable, tamper proof data log. A hash chain.
  3. From Git, the most widely used system for collaborative software – the Agent centric model, where there is no one global truth.

In the Git world, I have my version of the code. If I make a copy and add a green button, altering the code, I can suggest the change to you. If you like the change and accept it, you sign it with a cryptographic key, just like track changes in a Word doc. When you suggest changes it shows them to me. If I accept this change, and I sign that acceptance with my cryptographic key, it updates my chain to include the changes I accept. But you can’t change my stuff. I have to update my stuff. As a sovereign agent.

Holochain is an agent centric model which is very different to the data centric model of blockchain. There are no miners, and no company in the middle deciding and enforcing the rules.  Instead, the participants of a particlar of the network running it as a community. By pooling together our computing resources we make possible an entire network of distributed apps that are free from centralised, corporate control. By putting that scale of control back into the hands of users, we enable humanity to access entirely new possibilities for how we do economics, governance and community.

By putting that scale of control back into the hands of users, we enable humanity to access entirely new possibilities for how we do economics, governance and community.

OSB: That’s awesome, it sounds like you’ve developed a system to run something like PLANET, the open source OS we’ve been thinking about for so long. But if this is going to work the peer to peer network will need to grow pretty quickly, is that where the HoloPorts come in?

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As well as running possibly the world’s first ever ethically (rather than purely finically) motivated ICO, which raised £20 million, the Holo team also recently closed a crowdfunder for Holo ports, which raised over $1 million. The supply of ‘Holo Tokens’ which were sold in the ICO was calculated by a fixed formula based on data from the crowdfunding campaign for HoloPorts. HoloPorts are “plug and play” devices which come with software already installed and are optimized to run Holo. When they arrive with the 2114 users who purchased them through the crowdfunder people can just plug them in, follow the instructions, and start hosting the network and earning Holo fuel.

MS: Holo is a bridge between the old internet and the new internet. The people who are running holo are the bridge builders who get paid for building the bridge. So, normal internet users don’t have to do anything new – they might not even know that when they visit a website, on the backend, there is a community rather than a company.

HoloPorts come in three sizes: HoloPort Nano, HoloPort, and HoloPort+, each representing a different capacity for hosting.

OSB: I love the fact that Holo’s currency, Holo fuel, is both backed by computer processing power and designed to work as a mutual credit system.

MS: Holo also provides a new accounting process, which solves two problems: giant volumes of transactions and low transaction costs. We don’t even need to own the structures to do the accounting – we’re using a distributed app for that too – a payment system, so we are able to offer payment processing as well as hosting – for less than anyone currently offers. We’ll be able to process millions or billions of simultaneous payments – and have them work even when the transaction value is 1 cent or less. I’m not going to send you 2p if it costs me 20p to do so… We think we’ve solved an important issue.  The cost of accounting needs to be far less than the values exchanged.

OSB: Absolutely. I’ve seen that very problem plague existing blockchain projects, so I really hope it is something Holo solves. Speaking of finances, you seemed to take great care to ensure the ICO was ethically managed and you’ve now raised a huge amount of money! What are your first plans with your new resources?

MS: Our goals were clear:

  1. Get this off the ground – launch the change
  2. Make sure the humans get taken care of for their part in that…

It’s a principle we’re going to follow with the whole community of hosts, and ICO investors. We’ve been trying to design the architecture so people end up better off by participating. We’re taking care of our staff and the community that are trying to get the software built. But we’re not trying to become billionaires.

Our people have been living on $1000/month stipend and volunteering their time.

Two years ago I was sleeping in my car to be able to work on this full time. I hard to rent out my bedroom on Airbnb, so I could work on this without having to work on other stuff.  That generally meant that I would sleep in the car. Now our project has market cap worth hundreds of millions. But we’ll let that happen… it’s just people betting that we’ll be successful. The point is that now we have the resources we need, the ability to pay people and pull in deep knowledge.

OSB: How is the Holo organisation going to evolve?

MS: We’re in a transition period. We didn’t do anything in the normal way. We didn’t give any equity in the company to investors. We didn’t even give equity to the employees. I don’t have equity, for instance, because our intent is to hand over control of the resources to the community over time.

We’re aiming to start by using a CoBudget-like process so that our community will control 1 to 3 % of the revenue. There will be a learning process, so the community can build up it’s ability to make decisions and exercise judgement about how to allocate resources, towards training / UI / development / security tools etc. Over time the plan is to increase the amount of the revenue which the community controls until the community controls all of the revenue.

We’re also launching a Trust that controls Holochain. That trust receives 50% of Holo’s revenues and that will help to support Holochain and nourish the growth of the network. Basically we’ve managed to hack together a funding mechanism for Holochain, despite the fact that we are completely giving Holochain away for free.

OSB: So, do you think Holo will help liberate decentralised co-operation at scale?

MS: We’re hacking business structures in order to try to change what types of business models are possible in the world.

We’re hacking business structures in order to try to change what types of business models are possible in the world.

This concept of putting users in the middle will completely shift how co-ops can function. It will enable them to make use of the advantage that they have, which is diversity. What we are calling platform co-ops and protocol co-ops – coming together in alignment to create an ecosystem rather than just a network. So we can try new things and if they prove useful, they can propagate across the community and perhaps beyond. The “beyond” comes from the fact that users can bridge between different networks.  That means that I can draw data from 5 or 10 apps and combine them together to create a more coherent user experience for myself. And I don’t need anyone else to agree to also use that particular configuration. If it works for me, I can put it to work. No group meetings and voting required (for that sort of issue, anyway.),

No more top down, or one-size fits all application experiences, that’s centralised corporate architecture. New ways of digital commutation are going to harness the diversity of co-ops and help give them a learning advantage. This will allow them to experiment and learn faster than centralised organisations – a collaborative advantage in a world that changing fast.


Part 2 of this interview – exploring more of Holo’s plans to enable decentralised co-operation at scale is coming soon…

Matthew Schutte and Art Brock from Holochain will both be speaking at the OPEN 2018 Platform Co-ops conference in London in July – as well as running hands-on workshops on how to download the source code and design apps to work on Holochain.

We’re not the only people who are starting to get excited about Holochain, the concept has caught many other eyes. With developers like Nicolas Luck explaining how Holochain is reinventing applications and how it “works and performs better than Ethereum by several orders of magnitude”, and Jean Russell sharing 5 Ways Holochain can save democracy, momentum is starting to build.

In his post about Holochain reinventing applications Nicolas shares his vision, explains the shift from data-centric to agent-centric architecture and proposes building a Holo browser:

“I am talking about a browser for the Holochain app ecosystem that is not opening HTML documents but instead is facilitating communication between the user and other users, groups, teams, organizations and the network as a whole. Think: decentralized WeChat. Basically a very generalized address book/team chat/social network/collaboration UI with no specialized functionality as that is to be filled-in by those many apps which are meant to work together as micro-services.”

That is exactly what we have tried to illustrate with PLANET, which is why this is all so exciting. If the users co-own and co-design the browser which Nicolas describes we will finally have a framework within which we can build a democratic, collaborative, sustainable economy – the perfect framework for decentralised cooperation at scale.


Cross-posted from open.coop

Read part II of the interview: “Holochain – The commons engine

 

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First Impressions on the Commons Transition in Ghent: An Interview with Michel Bauwens https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/first-impressions-commons-transition-ghent-interview-michel-bauwens/2017/05/22 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/first-impressions-commons-transition-ghent-interview-michel-bauwens/2017/05/22#comments Mon, 22 May 2017 09:00:40 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=65487 An interview with Michel Bauwens, conducted by Vasilis Niaros. Vasilis Niaros: Can you give us a short background of the project? Michel Bauwens: Ghent is a mid-sized city of about 300,000 inhabitants, with a huge student population, and a prestigious history. It was once the biggest city in northwestern Europe (12th-13th century). It has had... Continue reading

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An interview with Michel Bauwens, conducted by Vasilis Niaros.

Vasilis Niaros: Can you give us a short background of the project?

Michel Bauwens: Ghent is a mid-sized city of about 300,000 inhabitants, with a huge student population, and a prestigious history. It was once the biggest city in northwestern Europe (12th-13th century). It has had a progressive red-green-blue city coalition for more than a decade and has already been active in supporting many citizen initiatives. But as the city became more and more aware of the importance of the commons in these new models, it asked us as the P2P Foundation (myself and coordinator Yurek Onzia for our p2p/commons related expertise) to map the commons in Ghent, and to see what is expected of city authorities in this context. Thus, we have three months for intense conversations with the local players, and to produce a Commons Transition Plan.

VN: In which phase are you at the moment? What have you done so far?

MB: We are pretty much done with the investigative and ‘mapping phase’. We did a lot of online research, about 80 conversations with project initiators, an in-depth questionnaire; and all of this has been put in a open and shared wiki, which is organized by major ‘provisioning’ systems, i.e. food, mobility, housing, etc. In parallel, we have organized, with the assistance of Timelab and Evi Swinnen, weekly meetings in order to stimulate more interconnection between players in particular fields. Timelab is one of the maker cultural centers/makerspaces and has been an essential ally and supporter for this project.

A lot is happening in Ghent. The Flanders region has known a tenfold increase in commons-connected citizen initiatives in the last ten years, but as in many other places, there is still too much fragmentation. We are using the commons narrative to catalyze more convergence across projects, so that they can have a systemic effect on the city ecosystem and even influence policy making. Some areas we are specially focusing on are the economic realities of the commons projects (what are their concrete resources), their regulatory difficulties, and the possibilities of turning them into real economic and social projects that can stimulate the local economy. Our basic hypothesis is that the transition towards these commons models is also vital to morph into sustainable societies.

VN: Which are the main challenges that you have faced by now?

MB: The collaboration and reception we received from both the city and the citizen initiatives have been tremendous. More than 50% have returned our extended questionnaire, and we’ve had good attendance at our collective meetings. Amongst our preliminary findings are:

  1. Ghent has a dynamic city administration that is effectively engaged in the transition, for the long term, but there are still too many sectorally fragmented approaches;
  2. Ghent has very dynamic and organized citizens that are concretely initiating and advancing transition projects, but they are also quite fragmented, although some sectors are more advanced than others, such as food and energy;
  3. amongst the weaknesses is that Ghent lacks an emergent industry, and that university institutions are not visibly connected with citizen initiatives;
  4. in general, there is a lot of action, but not yet much meta-reflection and inter-connection and alignment between projects.

We made a lot of progress with our wiki, lots of material to work with and analyze, and we will soon be ready with our writing and proposition phase.

VN: Can you give us an idea of some of the directions that you are taking in terms of proposed solutions?

MB: The key issue for me is how we can move from the current situation of fragmentation towards the beginning of an alternative eco-system that is sustainable and socially fair. One of my ideas is to build on the structure that has shown relative success in the most advanced sectors, which is the success in creating the beginning of an alternative food system. Ghent has a wide variety of CSA projects, collective purchasing groups, and the like, in which new producers and active prosumers are creating new relationships. It also has a workshop where the key players of this new economy are studying and reflecting together, and can propose changes to the city. It also has a food policy council and project, Ghent en Garde, that is fully committed to the sustainability transition.

I think this could be the basis of a generic structure for the transition in the other provisioning systems as well; I call this ‘sustainability empowerment platforms’. I’m also looking at how the collective purchasing power of the anchor institutions, could leverage this power in terms of sustainable local purchasing by moving to social procurement practices. Ghent has one million school meals in the city schooling system, which could be locally sourced. Timelab has pioneered a ‘call for commons’ approach in which, instead of competing for scarce subsidies, actors create common solutions through a network approach, which could be generalized in other city-based projects, instead of purely competitive bids. On a more fundamental political level, can city institutions and democratic procedures integrate the ‘right to challenge’ by citizen initiatives, and even the ‘right to initiate’ as is already the case in Bologna for example? Is the city and its administrative and political culture ready to become a ‘partner city’ which can empower citizens to co-create common-wealth more systematically and successfully?

VN: What is the role of the municipality in the project?

MB: The municipality commissioned the project. It is the first municipality in the world to look strategically at the commons transition, that’s not trivial. The mayor and the strategic directorate of the city have been supportive and have nominated a very effective coordinator, which has opened doors for us to meet a series of engaged officials in different departments. In parallel, we received equally enthusiastic support from civil society initiatives and organisations, showing us that the commons are alive and correspond to a true aspiration. The difficulty of the project is not to be underestimated however, i.e. how to get more convergence and systematicity amongst commons actors in the various sectors, and how to realize more voice and political clout. How can we tackle the more infrastructural commons requirements, such as space and land, which is subject to tremendous speculative activity and gentrification? How can we fund the commons transition, for example, through circular finance that tackles the cost of negative externalities and supports commons initiatives which drastically improve the material footprint of human economic and social activities?

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Meet Abdellah Boudhira, Third-Generation Moroccan Farmer https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/meet-abdellah-boudhira-third-generation-moroccan-farmer/2016/11/04 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/meet-abdellah-boudhira-third-generation-moroccan-farmer/2016/11/04#respond Fri, 04 Nov 2016 09:00:57 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=61258 An interview conducted by Alexandra Groome and Griffin Klement. Originally published at Regeneration International: “Abdellah Boudhira, a third-generation farmer in Morocco, has experienced first-hand the downside of conventional farming. Boudhira watched his family farm suffer for decades under the false promises of higher yields, combined with the high costs of chemical inputs like synthetic fertilizers... Continue reading

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An interview conducted by Alexandra Groome and Griffin Klement. Originally published at Regeneration International:

“Abdellah Boudhira, a third-generation farmer in Morocco, has experienced first-hand the downside of conventional farming. Boudhira watched his family farm suffer for decades under the false promises of higher yields, combined with the high costs of chemical inputs like synthetic fertilizers and toxic pesticides.

In 2012, Boudhira began his farm’s transition to regenerative agriculture in order to save his family farm. Restoring his land’s soil, rescuing local seed varieties and rebuilding a market for local organics in Morocco has been challenging, Boudhira said. But the decision was the right one, he said, after witnessing the damage expensive hybrid seeds and toxic chemicals had inflicted on his most precious resource—soil.

Agriculture is the backbone of Morocco’s economy. But Morocco’s farmers, like so many farmers in other parts of the world, are suffering from recurring drought. Still, according to a 2014 GRAIN report, small farmers like Boudhira are producing 70 percent of the world’s food on less than a quarter of all farmland. And they are producing this food despite the challenges of dwindling natural resources, increasingly extreme and unpredictable weather patterns and the economic impacts of rapidly expanding industrial farms that are crushing local food systems.

Regeneration International invited Boudhira to share his story on November 18, at an event we helped organize for the upcoming COP22 Climate Summit in Marrakesh. Read the interview we conducted with him to learn more about his farm, his transition to regenerative agriculture and his plans for the future.

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Interview with Abdellah Boudhira (October 20 , 2016)

Regeneration International: Tell us about your story, how did you get involved in regenerative agriculture?

Abdellah Boudhira: I switched from conventional to regenerative agriculture for many reasons. As a small farmer who works my land by myself I needed to avoid and protect myself from chemicals, which I used to spray nearly four times a week. The second reason is because our land became exhausted from growing only tomatoes year after year. I’m a specialist in growing tomatoes and for more than 20 years my father only grew tomatoes in the same place and eventually our land became exhausted from it. Soil diseases like nematode and fusarium developed and affected the productivity of our tomatoes.

The third reason is to avoid debt to seed suppliers, chemical companies and synthetic fertilizer companies. If I kept working the same “conventional” way, I would always be indebted. The fourth reason is that I wanted to change the way I market my produce. I wanted to sell directly to families, directly to the “consumer,” so that I could benefit from the real advantages of growing organic food. I wanted to find and maintain customers who seek healthy food and care about what they eat. When farmers sell to wholesale markets, there are intermediaries who don’t care how the produce is grown in the field. They only care about the quantity and look of the produce. Their only goal is making money. There is no interaction between farmers and consumers. Farmers sell their produce at low prices while the consumer buys it at a high price because the same produce passed through the hands of three to four middlemen before it reaches the consumer.

RI: Hybrid seeds were introduced in your region in the 1980s, what impact have they had on farmers in your region?

AB: Before hybrid seeds were introduced to Moroccan farmers, farmers were saving their own seeds and traded them with each other. For example when we save seeds from heirloom tomatoes we give some to our neighbor farmers and they give us green beans, squash, carrots, onion seeds, so no one ever purchased seeds during that time. But when hybrid seeds came and some farmers purchased them, because of the high yield they gave and the uniform size and color and look they have, their popularity and demand increased. Eventually all farmers were growing hybrid seeds and lost the seeds that had been passed down to them by generations of farmers. Years later more hybrid seeds were invented to resist diseases as such TMV whitefly, fusarium, verticillium wilt and nematodes. These seeds were introduced here by some well known international seed companies as such Royal Sluis, Vilmorin, Deruiter Seed, Syngenta. This caused the price of seeds to rise and the price has kept rising, and now tomato seeds are more expensive than gold here in Morocco.

RI: Really, more expensive than gold?

AB: Yes 1kg of tomato hybrid seeds is expensive than 1kg of gold here in Morocco.

RI: What other challenges do you and other farmers in your region face?

AB: The first challenge is drought, desertification and big agriculture which have depleted the underground water table. In the early 1960s my father was pumping water from a well 8 meters deep and today we pump water from a well 120 meters deep. Secondly, due to climate change, the majority of the year the climate is now warm and dry, which creates the perfect environment for harmful insects to breed quickly. Tuta absoluta, whitefly and another virus that appeared this year called New Delhi which attacks cucurbitaceae are some examples.

The emergence of these pests has forced big farmers to grow crops that are susceptible to these viruses in isolated greenhouses. Small farmers simply cannot afford to build these types of greenhouses, so they’ve shifted to growing easy greens as such lettuce, beets. So small farmers have flooded the market with the same produce because they have no alternatives.

Another challenge is that the land is tired because farmers are not rotating their crops and they’re using harmful chemicals to kill soil diseases. Finally, both small and big farmers have such high debt, every year we hear that some farmer has to sell his property.

I am a farmer by choice. My soul gets inspired when I touch the soil and water and when I plant seeds and watch them grow.

RI: What tools are you using in response to these challenges and to build your farm’s resiliency in the face of climate change and extreme weather?

AB: I am a farmer by choice. My soul gets inspired when I touch the soil and water and when I plant seeds and watch them grow. Today it is more difficult to grow things than it was years ago. Since 1998 I’ve felt that there is something abnormal occurring in farming systems. Farming needs more care and attention and requires more planning than it used to.  In order to sustain myself as a farmer I had to change the way I farm and the way I market my produce. Now I grow different types of vegetables, herbs and greens in a rotational program. This builds soil fertility and protects against soil diseases. Growing biodiverse crops makes my farm more resilient in the face of extreme weather or pests. My farm was less resilient when we only grew one type of crop. For example wet weather can cause white powdery mildew on squash but not on onions, radishes, tomatoes and green beans.

I also make compost from my garden waste and aged manure and mix it in the soil to build fertility. I obtained heirloom seeds and now save my own seeds that I save for the next season. I don’t have to buy expensive hybrid seeds anymore.

I focus on controlling illness in plants when it first begins, because it’s easier to control than to treat. For pest control I use chili solution to burn cutworms as they hatch from the moth eggs, I spray ashes on cucurbitaceae leaves to reduce the development of white powdery mildew, I practice what is called intensive gardening so to get good quantity of food in a limited area of land. This also saves me land and reduces weeding. And for plants that need partial sunlight, I grow them beside tall plants to give them shade in the afternoon. This year I started to look for customers in the city of Agadir to buy my produce so I can keep improving my farming.

RI: What advice do you have to other farmers seeking to increase their farm’s resiliency?

AB: The best advice I have for farmers is to open their minds and be open to changing their practices. I shared my ideas with some young farmers here but I’ve found they’re afraid of new ideas. They’re stuck in their ways.

You know, farmers are close to nature and in nature everything teaches you lessons, but unfortunately not everyone learns. A real farmer who loves his land and finds joy in working it, a farmer who creates life and food that nourishes both body and soul, a farmer whose heart is firm no matter what challenges they face, this farmer will find a way.

Farmland is farmer potential. A farmer should handle his/her land with care. Farmers should run away from anything which labeled wear a muzzle, gloves, or glass before using it. Farmers should stay away from banks that offer to provide loans. Farmers should practice rotational growing. Farmers should revise their marketing strategy to create a better and honorable ways to market their produce.

RI: Tell us about your vision for the future of your farm?

AB: My vision for the future of my farm has great promise. I am very pleased with the results I have achieved after many years of hard work, but what looks unclear to me is the future of our farm because our land is shared between our relatives. I farm on my father’s share of land. The neighboring land I rent will expire in 2018. I don’t know if my landlord will extend it… Anyways let’s be optimists. A farmer should always be an optimist or he won’t be a farmer anymore.

RI: The Lima Paris Action Agenda (LPAA) states “agriculture is a key sector to achieve both food security and the 2 degree target,” how do you feel Morocco fits into this context?

AB: Without a doubt agriculture is the key to achieving food security, but we must practice an agriculture that regenerates natural resources, water and soil fertility.

In Morocco there are only two regions that feed the entire country. These two regions even supply Europe, Russia, USA, Canada and China with citrus and other vegetables. Due to the compaction of the soil by big agriculture in these regions,, water tables have depleted by almost in half of one region. Here, where I live, soils are also degrading. Without heavy use of synthetic fertilizers, farmers can’t get the yields they need in order to keep up with growing input costs.

There is an abundance of water and lush land in the north of the country but people there made the choice decades ago to immigrate to Europe and to the big cities in Morocco instead of working on the land. Now it is hard to convince young people there to become farmers. Farming is not an easy job especially if you are small farmer.

RI: How can consumers help to support the growth of regenerative agriculture in North Africa?

AB: In order to encourage farmers to grow healthy food in a regenerative way, consumers must buy products from farmers at a price that will allow them to farm that way. Local farmers need that support so they can keep their land and keep working their land instead of selling it to move to overcrowded cities.”

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