Comments on: The sustainable city of the twentyfirst century https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/sustainable-city-twentyfirst-century/2017/06/20 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Thu, 24 Aug 2017 07:56:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Øyvind Holmstad https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/sustainable-city-twentyfirst-century/2017/06/20/comment-page-1#comment-1579034 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 07:56:46 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=66114#comment-1579034 – URBAN SPRAWL AND THE DANGER OF THE LOSS OF WILD SPACES: https://permaculturenews.org/2017/08/24/urban-sprawl-danger-loss-wild-spaces/

“If cities are truly going to become a sustainable part of the landscape, they first need to find ways to re-engage with those natural areas closest to them and develop just relationships that respect the rural populations and assist in maintaining the ecological resiliency of those places.”

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By: Øyvind Holmstad https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/sustainable-city-twentyfirst-century/2017/06/20/comment-page-1#comment-1578945 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:02:03 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=66114#comment-1578945 “What’s especially striking in similarity to the court of the Bourbons is the utter cluelessness of America’s entitled power elite to the agony of the moiling masses below them and mainly away from the coastal cities. Just about everything meaningful has been taken away from them, even though many of the material trappings of existence remain: a roof, stuff that resembles food, cars, and screens of various sizes.

But the places they are supposed to call home are either wrecked — the original small towns and cities of America — or replaced by new “developments” so devoid of artistry, history, thought, care, and charm that they don’t add up to communities, and are so obviously unworthy of affection, that the very idea of “home” becomes a cruel joke.

These places were bad enough in the 1960s and 70s, when the people who lived in them at least were able to report to paying jobs assembling products and managing their distribution. Now those people don’t have that to give a little meaning to their existence, or cover the costs of it. Public space was never designed into the automobile suburbs, and the sad remnants of it were replaced by ersatz substitutes, like the now-dying malls. Everything else of a public and human associational nature has been shoved into some kind of computerized box with a screen on it.” – J.H. Kunstler

http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-value-of-everything/

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By: Øyvind Holmstad https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/sustainable-city-twentyfirst-century/2017/06/20/comment-page-1#comment-1578757 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:22:04 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=66114#comment-1578757 The illustrations are from here: http://7g.nz/

See too David Brussat’s recent introduction to Market Towns: https://architecturehereandthere.com/2017/06/18/market-town-new-zealand/

Kunstler on the subject: https://orionmagazine.org/article/back-to-the-future/

By the way, Pål Steigan himself lives in Tolfa, some of the closest you can come to an idealized Market Town: https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/tolfa-in-italy-a-future-hub-for-the-commons-in-europe/2014/06/25

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By: owen https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/sustainable-city-twentyfirst-century/2017/06/20/comment-page-1#comment-1578756 Tue, 20 Jun 2017 17:39:55 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=66114#comment-1578756 Perhaps you can clarify the paradoxical juxtaposition of a backward binding traditionalism illustrated nicely but seemingly inappropriately with the scale of urbanity and populations discussed in the article – seems the political thrust is Schumacherian in settlement terms?

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