Comments on: Refuting the ideological warfare used to justify the invasion of Greece https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:17:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Michel Bauwens https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22/comment-page-1#comment-485334 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 16:17:22 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=17177#comment-485334 In reply to noulo.

Hi Noulo, click on the original article, which has the supporting stats … germans have actually short working weeks and a lot of vacations …

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By: denise https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22/comment-page-1#comment-485333 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:46:44 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=17177#comment-485333 Je suis comletement d accord et les INDIGNES de la grece le savent aussi

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By: noulo https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22/comment-page-1#comment-485332 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:34:23 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=17177#comment-485332 Hi Michel!

My Maths skills are not great, but how is it possible for Greeks to work more hours than Germans or Brits (as you say) and produce more per person per hour (as you say) and still have a lower GDP per capita in comparison to these countries?

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By: Stephanie https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22/comment-page-1#comment-485329 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:14:53 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=17177#comment-485329 As revealed by Strauss Khan, former head of the IMF, Prime Papandreou had been plotting for some time to bring Greece under the yoke of the IMF. Papandreou already knew before the elections of 2009 that the country was in deep trouble financially. Yet in his pre-election speeches he purposefully lied to the Greek people, telling the electorate that “there is plenty of money”. Having won a comfortable majority, he then proceeded to sign up the country for huge loans that it has no hopes of repaying and has pledged the entirety of the Greek public wealth as collateral. This means that unless Greece can keep up repayments as they fall due, which many economists say is highly unlikely given the dire state of its economy, its creditors will be able to grab ever more state assets.

The monstrous loan agreement by which the country was effectively turned into an economic protectorate of its creditors was never ratified in parliament, having been signed only by the Greek FinMin and the governor of the Bank of Greece (a private bank), with many MPs remaining ignorant of its terms until the first tranche of the loan had been disbursed. The scandal has been systematically covered up by the media and the press, both in Greece and abroad.

It has now been announced that there will be a vote in parliament by the end of June to officially make this preposterous “loan agreement” law of the state. The date, which has yet to be confirmed, was chosen on purpose, as this is the time when Greek people traditionally escape to the beach in search of relief from the scorching heat of the Greek summer.

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By: Alex Dimitrakopoulos https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22/comment-page-1#comment-485328 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 09:49:25 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=17177#comment-485328 Well said, except for one point. The Greek civilians all these years have silently accepted the system ( political parties and members of parliament ) to manipulate morals , ethics and even the law itself in an exchange for a better and easier life (
working preferably for the government). Two people to do the job of one has been the system in Greece for the past 30 or so years, simply because thats how politicians at rule would buy their votes. It’s not how many hours one works but how productive one is. How can Greece be productive when there is no competition? How can one improve if he does not feel pressure. The entire system needs structural reforming starting with the political system and the punishment of those who live off it like parasitically.

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By: josef’s Blog https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22/comment-page-1#comment-485324 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:55:55 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=17177#comment-485324 […] read: refuting the ideological warfare used to justify the invasion of Greece http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greec… LikeBe the first to like this […]

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By: Sasha https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22/comment-page-1#comment-485322 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:23:24 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=17177#comment-485322 I say: support for Greeks!

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By: @mikeriddell62 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/refuting-the-ideological-warfare-used-to-justify-the-invasion-of-greece/2011/06/22/comment-page-1#comment-485318 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:58:44 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=17177#comment-485318 “What do you say?” you ask.

Amen.

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