Raoul Victor on the Corporate Commons and other forms of hybrid peer production

I’m reproducing interesting comments from Raoul Victor on the Oekonux mailing list, who reacts to the following question/statement of mine:

On 11jan09 I had written:

“As free software moves from the margins to center stage, more and more corporations adapt to the model, and pay programmers to do such parts of the free software as needed for themselves, but they use the open licenses. So these corporations compete, but also collaborate through the common platform of free software. For Linux, 75% of programmers are now paid by such corporations, which means they have an increasing influence over the direction of development, have a seat in the Foundations etc; (…) The reality of the various projects is then strongly influenced by the governance model, which can be controlled primarily by a community-oriented foundation, or by a corporate-oriented format.”

Raoul’s comments:

Some remarks about the existence of “hybrid forms” and about the dynamics of these forms.

The reality you describe is a hybrid social form of production, borrowing aspects from both systems, capitalism and P2P, or peer production. Using your definition of peer production (free and open input; free volunteering production; universally available output), one can say that there are hybrid aspects at the three moments of the process:

1. input, raw material is partly capitalistic as the computers, the offices, etc. are privately owned by the corporations (as IBM), but, for software production, free/open software is also a “raw material”;

2. production is not based on free volunteering, but some aspects of the production are new, non capitalistic, as the cooperation between programmers of antagonistic corporations;

3. the output can be oriented by corporations more towards their own needs (commercial management software, for example) but the output remains universally available.

The “social networking” also generates hybrid forms.

If you take MySpace or YouTube:

1. the input is partly capitalistic (the infrastructures and the financing by advertising), but for the rest most of the input (videos, blogs, etc.) are free and open;

2. the production process is based partially on capitalist wage relations for the infrastructure management, but the rest is based on free volunteering;

3. the output is supposed to be universally available but corporations impose limits and try to extend these limits, provoking open conflicts with users/producers. (See for example: “Why I’m deleting my Myspace account and you should to”)

Hybrid forms also developed in the past transitions between modes of production. Between the 6th and the 10h century, many landlords, including the Church, had simultaneously slaves and serfs (or “coloni” which were the first form of serfs). Between the 12th century and the 19th century many hybrid forms developed especially in the cities where capitalism developed within feudal relationships.

The evolution of these forms has been often slow, with periods of acceleration but also periods of recession. The example of the Arsenal of Venice, which in the early 16th century employed some 16,000 people and could produce almost a ship per day using production-lines, something not seen again after until the industrial revolution, illustrates how non-linear this evolution can be.

The dynamic of that evolution depends on many factors. The evolution of technologies is one of them, but it is far from explaining everything, as the Venetian Arsenal example shows. Here the social consciousness, the social and political conflicts play a crucial role. The European wars of religion after the 16th century and the bourgeois revolutions where indirect or direct expressions of the conflict between the old feudal logic and the raising capitalistic one.

In the conflict you refer to about the management of Free/open software foundations, between “community-oriented” and “corporate-oriented” formats, we are witnessing the same kind of conflict between the old logic and the new. Its dynamic depends and will depend not only on material-technological realities but also on social and “political” struggles, at micro and macro scales. And things should become harsher when peer production will pretend to extend to the realm of material production.

You also wrote:

“This is inevitable, as no free software project can survive in the long run without a core of developers being paid.”

Yes. As long as the material means of production (and thus the material means of consumption) remain under the capitalist logic governance, the peer production realities will be in a way or another limited.

The development of the present economic crisis should make more visible at a social scale the need to overcome the dominant logic. The “invisible hand” is paralyzing an increasing share of the material means of production while workers are made redundant and unsatisfied material needs explode. Let’s hope that this evidence will help to develop the consciousness of the urgency to extend peer production principles to the material sphere.”

6 Comments Raoul Victor on the Corporate Commons and other forms of hybrid peer production

  1. AvatarDonald

    Raoul writes: “As long as the material means of production (and thus the material means of consumption) remain under the capitalist logic governance, the peer production realities will be in a way or another limited.

    The development of the present economic crisis should make more visible at a social scale the need to overcome the dominant logic.”

    In the context of the general conversation about corporate support of free software programming, I’ve often wondered why we don’t just have something structured more or less as a cooperative to hire and pay people for this work. The cooperative form is limited in many ways, but it is certainly less limited that normal corporate mechanisms if we’re talking about social production and distribution. Essentially this would only entail chartering a firm in which cooperative members each contribute a small amount of equity finance (either one time or yearly) that massed together provides sufficient capital for programmers. The overall business plan would need some tweaking, but if we want to move beyond resignation we should explore existing organizational and financial models for crowd-funding open source development, either through one firm or through a meshwork of them. Just a thought.

  2. AvatarMichel Bauwens

    Dear Donald,

    I totally agree with your suggestion, though it does not seem to have a lot of traction. However, I have tracked some initiatives in various parts of the world, and if you know of others, thanks for letting me know.

    See for the links at http://p2pfoundation.net/Free_Software_Cooperatives

    Here’s the material you can find there:

    Active:

    1. OSSICS, Kerala, India
    2. OS Alliance, Austria, “Georg Pleger” ; Roland Alton-Scheidl ; Eric Poscher
    3. WikiOcean, Pune, India, uses Weko/Reppo based governance system. Contact for info: [email protected]
    4. SOLIS – Brazil, Júnior Mulinari
    5. Gcoop – Argentina; [email protected]
    6. Pong – Switzerland
    7. Ikusnet – Spain

    Other contacts:

    1. Joice Käfer
    2. Rama

    Inactive?:

    1. KunLabori Collaborative, Sweden (no longer active, according to Josef Davies-Coates, May 2008)

    See also:

    1. Turo Technology LLP, UK
    2. The Open Co-op, UK
    3. HostSharing eG – a german coop specialising on ISP Services

    More Information

    1. Spanish-language discussion list, maintained by Gcoop in Argentina: Cooperativismo y el Software Libre
    2. Cooperativas de Software Livre

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  4. AvatarMarc Fawzi

    Hi Michel,

    Just sneaking in a comment in a hurry …

    The actual cost of free software, unlike the cost of something like bandwidth, is not so obvious.

    Let’s say that a certain percentage of programmers agree to participate in a generalized exchange such that everyone makes and gets software for free. This way, each programmer contributes code to some other software project besides their own. Everyone is happy and the system is balanced. However, when the number of end users for a given free software application (those who do not contribute any code to any project) mushrooms relative to the number of developers working on that application then so does the demand on the developers to satisfy an ever growing user base and the growing number of feature requests that come with it. When you implement financial donations by the end users (in place of contributing code) this system regains its balance, but without donations by end users (including massive corporations, e.g. Google, who are actually some of the biggest donors to free software, demographically speaking) there is no way to sustain the demands (in feature and design enhancements) of an ever growing user base. So it’s not a generalized exchange any more when the end users become the financial supporters. Case in point: Firefox. Google funds it in a major way, including having its lead developer work for Google (either still true or was true in the past,) which raises an interesting conflict of interest issue since Google is the biggest single donor in this case and they happen to have their own browser, but that’s besides the point.

    The point is that a generalized exchange works as long as there is a balance between givers and takers (including the end users.) In other words, when a free software application becomes too popular then you have to have more developers working on it to meet the increased demands of a larger user base (in terms of feature requests, design enhancements, and just keeping a diverse base of users happy) and with larger number of developers and a very large user base you need an actual organization with project managers, testers, technical writers, etc, to the point where it becomes important that you get some financial donations.

    There is more detail to this argument but I am extremely bandwidth starved atm.

    I may add the above after further debate and refinement to the set of examples under

    Marc

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