Comments on: Podcast: Universal Basic Income – An Idea Whose Time Has Come https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/podcast-universal-basic-income-idea-whose-time-come/2017/08/17 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:25:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Simon Grant https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/podcast-universal-basic-income-idea-whose-time-come/2017/08/17/comment-page-1#comment-1579170 Wed, 04 Oct 2017 08:49:44 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=67143#comment-1579170 It’s specially in areas like this that we need really good research. It’s very easy for supporters or detractors to claim that what they think will happen, will happen. Could we at least agree on some kind of resolution process?

On the other hand, maybe we can’t deal with this at this level of “facts”, because I suspect there are much deeper values and feelings involved. In which case, the sensible approach is to get people who start on opposite sides, with opposite views, to talk to each other, and listen reflectively.

Once we’ve built up trust — emotional trust — on both sides, that we are both hearing each other fully, maybe we can progress back to the practical questions?

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By: Theodore G. https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/podcast-universal-basic-income-idea-whose-time-come/2017/08/17/comment-page-1#comment-1579167 Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:15:50 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=67143#comment-1579167 UBI is a great idea.
I can’t even imagine how much the world would change if UBI was (truly) implemented even in a few regions, let alone whole countries. The amount of creativity that would be unleashed in all fields (and most likely “open source”), would geometrically improve everyones lives in practically no time.

As far as a previous comment is concerned:
I would not call it a “half-fix”, I would call it “(the beginning of) riding the learning curve”.
Best to all.
T.

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By: Wingnut https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/podcast-universal-basic-income-idea-whose-time-come/2017/08/17/comment-page-1#comment-1579131 Wed, 20 Sep 2017 23:20:32 +0000 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=67143#comment-1579131 Hi
It won’t work. Inflation (prices) will skyrocket until folks are desperate again. Think it out. Capitalism thrives on “desperate-for-jobs” servants/marchers… who are over a barrel with “or else” firing/termination threats/terrorism.

Price tags up, then need for more UBI funds, then price tags up, then UBI up, race for the moon. It is caused by “whatever the market will bear”-ism.

Abolish economies, ownership, price tags. Removing price tags from all survival goods… will accomplish your goals much better. Not a single other living creature on the entire planet… uses economies/ownership. It is time to follow that model.

Let’s discuss it all, instead of repeatedly trying to peddle UBI. How about Universal No Need For Money? As soon as you remove money/ownership from the equation, the “classing” goes, too, and isn’t that what we all REALLY want? You bet.

Is there some ulterior motive for peddling this half-fix? Could we hear it? Thx.

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