Comments on: Peter Linebaugh on the principles of commoning https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peter-linebaugh-on-the-principles-of-commoning/2010/03/08 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:48:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Poor Richard https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peter-linebaugh-on-the-principles-of-commoning/2010/03/08/comment-page-1#comment-486129 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:48:23 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=7689#comment-486129 “The ancient court leet resolved quarrels of over-use; the panchayat in India did – and sometimes still does — the same, like the way a factory grievance committee is supposed to be; the jury of peers is a vestigial remnant which determines what a crime is as well as who’s a criminal.”

Interesting common law references. The jury of peers is currently under sustained corporate attack by various forms of coerced “arbitration”. I think they may need Frank Luntz to give it a better name, like “mother’s milk” to speed public acceptance.

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By: Poor Richard https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peter-linebaugh-on-the-principles-of-commoning/2010/03/08/comment-page-1#comment-486128 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:39:02 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=7689#comment-486128 “Commons is antithetical to capital.”

One can posit an enlightened capitalism by redefining many of the terms and rules of capitalism, as some have done (see natural capitalism), but the historical baggage of capitalism would make this pretty confusing to many.

Where such exercises may have utility is in bridging or transitioning between an existing capitalist framework and a some other.

But on the whole, capitalism has been a system of euphemisms for theft and exploitation.

PR

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By: Poor Richard https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peter-linebaugh-on-the-principles-of-commoning/2010/03/08/comment-page-1#comment-486127 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:21:31 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=7689#comment-486127 “The activity of commoning is conducted through labor with other resources; it does not make a division between “labor” and “natural resources.” On the contrary, it is labor which creates something as a resource, and it is by resources that the collectivity of labor comes to pass.”

This strikes me as an extremely profound idea. I tried to think of exceptions where something is a resource without labor being involved. I thought of air, but then of course air is not really a resource without breathing.

I can only add to this concept by suggesting that we might want to recognize something we could call “potential resources” which might be similar to “potential energy” in the physical sciences; and “processed resources” that would capture the relative degree of labor incorporated and the availability of the resource to a particular user. It is worth assigning value (monetary, social, and otherwise) to potential resources, but we can no longer do so without considering the integral value of the labor involved in converting potential resources to available resources.

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