Comments on: Peer production in art https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Mon, 03 Oct 2011 09:12:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Vasilis Kostakis https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23/comment-page-1#comment-484965 Fri, 27 May 2011 07:25:04 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=16295#comment-484965 @ Eimhin

I do get your meaning; please keep us updated!

@ Voreiodytikes

🙂

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By: Eimhin https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23/comment-page-1#comment-484928 Tue, 24 May 2011 11:08:26 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=16295#comment-484928 Hi Vasilis,

I’m not technically skilled with computers and so I have no link I’m afraid, its still mostly in my head and on notebooks, but I still can’t decide the better route to take with it. Its a sublte issue. I prefer energy to force but still have some way to go with work on myself first, otherwise one could easily get lost trying to bend the world to an impercieved self will…I don’t want to ‘try’…if you get my meaning.

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By: Voreiodytikes https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23/comment-page-1#comment-484927 Tue, 24 May 2011 10:20:23 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=16295#comment-484927 Vasili, we thank you for sharing Fortigo with us.
It’s our most intriguing project.

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By: Rob Myers https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23/comment-page-1#comment-484916 Mon, 23 May 2011 18:43:14 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=16295#comment-484916 Vasilis – Thanks.

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By: Vasilis Kostakis https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23/comment-page-1#comment-484913 Mon, 23 May 2011 15:45:33 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=16295#comment-484913 Eimhin, thank you for your intriguing and constructive comments, which provide a nice theoretical framework to projects like ours (any link to your project?). I would like to highlight your view of “art as a living experience”, which I appreciate a lot.

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By: Eimhin https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23/comment-page-1#comment-484912 Mon, 23 May 2011 13:56:59 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=16295#comment-484912 Hello Vasilis,

good work, congratulations to you and your team. I am working on a project to facilitate actions and works such as this one. Some statements in response…

The modern creative and collaborative artist is moving away from art as product to art as a living experience. The ‘work of art’ is taking a back seat to the ‘action of art’ in a changing world where collaboration facilitates shared experiences of learning, expression, creativity and culture. Individuals pushing in this direction are increasingly aware of the negation of creativity effected by ‘the goal’ (The goal being creativity’s gaol) and thus do not see their work as a means to an end but an end in its self. In this way the process becomes sustained and the result is this sustained and developing process.

Gutenberg’s printing press of the 15th century provided the baseline for the ownership of the idea. This was further magnified by Descartes maxim ‘Cogito ergo sum’ and its translation to ‘I think therefore I am’. During the renaissance artists began to sign their paintings, the seperate development of the individual
was accompanied by specialisation and the culmination of the classical scientific model with Newtonian physics and classical mechanics.Ownership of the idea equated to ownership of the self and thus control over environment.

In the last hundred years we have seen the filtration of the quantum, thermodynamical, and complexity models into the public domain of general knowledge and practice. Non-locationality, holistic divergent creativity, and the development of the swarm-mind as facilitated by the internet are processes indicative of a huge increase in rates of information exchange among the networked population. The group has effectively become the ‘new entity’ and with this we see the old institutions, modes of life, and practices built on the individuating and specialised/isolatory model are being outgrown by the group dynamic.

What previously had been the percieved success of the individual (status, wealth, possesion, health, ability, education, culture) is being metafied by our understanding of the group dynamic of our species (culture, ability, health, education, recognition, possesion). This process of understanding is coming about by examining trends already in action around the world, these active trends are providing a bottom-up educative model as opposed to the top-down methods of education that exist in public institutions. Intelligence is more and more accurately appraised as a dynamic and active awareness set in the present state of constant change and is often determined by one’s ability to remain connected with this flux.

‘Social networks’ as they exist today are generally used in accordance with their ‘concept’. Perhaps the next thing to come of the network civilisation will be a heart to found the face. Cultural networks developed to facilitate creative collaboration and transnational collection and consensus of information aswell as providing a cultural map of the world based on celebriate recognition of human diversity and of cultural and supra-cultural acivity can perhaps better facilitate these advances in human culture. There is an opportunity to protect such a development to transnational human heritage in such a way as can be to the mutual advantage of all of mankind, forming a means of production that can be beyond monopolised self-interest thus sealing in the created material world the internal changes in the group psyche.

For more information email me at involuteconduit( at )gmail.com

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By: Vasilis Kostakis https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23/comment-page-1#comment-484911 Mon, 23 May 2011 13:43:45 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=16295#comment-484911 Rob, thank you for the comment. Our publisher distributes its books under the CC-BY-NC-SA -3.0

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By: Rob Myers https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-production-in-art/2011/05/23/comment-page-1#comment-484908 Mon, 23 May 2011 12:56:19 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=16295#comment-484908 It sounds like you’ve got a good structure for the project. I like the semi-open call first stage leading to a more structured and iterative development process.

Which CC licence is the work under?

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