Hi George, the quick answer is: I don’t know (yet) .. the social struggles in France in 2005 have been studied from that angle, i.e. a long term social mobilization using non-representational mechanisms, but I have not studied this in detail. Now a movement like Tahir Square to a large extent follows this process, but they have set themselves very strict limits, probably to maintain unity, i.e. not calling for the removal of the military dictatorship, but just its figurehead. With such auto-limitations, it can’t go much further than a general call for western-style democracy, which of course would be a fine achievement, even though from our perspective it sounds like, they want to be in the same limitations we are already in .. . So my take is we need a substantial amount of time to develop relatively autonomous peer producing communities, and a more serious general crisis of the world system, before this kind of process can really happen. In conclusion, we have to wait and observe how the new forms are invented as they are being invented … Already, we’ve learned a lot of course, that massive social mobilizations can produce radical change, in a very short time, such as in Tunisia.