Comments on: John Restakis and Michel Bauwens on the FLOK Society Transition Project in Ecuador https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/michel-bauwens-on-the-flok-society-transition-project-in-ecuador/2014/01/25 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Sat, 26 Apr 2014 04:47:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: willi uebelherr https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/michel-bauwens-on-the-flok-society-transition-project-in-ecuador/2014/01/25/comment-page-1#comment-651573 Sun, 09 Mar 2014 02:51:40 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=36288#comment-651573 Dear friends, dear John,

i was very happy to read your reflection to the situation in Ecuador. I believe to understand that you realize the contradiction of your activity in Ecuador.

With Kevin i say that any transformation is only possible form bottom-up. Never we can change the situation or tranform the economic base with state institutions. Of course, we can help.

But our focus is everytime the local selforganisation and selfdefinition. One of the most important step is the free communication system for free access to the free knowledge for all people. Then they are able to organize her local economy self.

And here we find the contra activity. The stabilizing of state control. And not only as a instrument for the rich groups, for the elites. No, also for your “emerging middle class”. For the State employees in her offices and institutions. But this people are never our base for transforming.

with many greetings, willi uebelherr
Quetzaltenango, Guatemala
[email protected]

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By: Emilio Velis https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/michel-bauwens-on-the-flok-society-transition-project-in-ecuador/2014/01/25/comment-page-1#comment-635632 Tue, 04 Feb 2014 16:04:46 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=36288#comment-635632 I’m curious on stating where does this all fit into the ideological spectrum. This seems like reinventing the wheel in terms of how politics are run right now, which seems as the most exciting alternative we have seen in the past decades.

We’ll have to wait and see whether this is the right moment to change the world through a commons-based mindset.

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By: Kevin Parcell https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/michel-bauwens-on-the-flok-society-transition-project-in-ecuador/2014/01/25/comment-page-1#comment-631075 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:04:17 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=36288#comment-631075 “Is it a digital age fantasy or a prescription for transformative change? Is there a political will to drive the radical changes we are envisioning? Will our work move from vision to reality?” I guess these are the important questions. Restakis also asks, “As we enter into 2014, in a time of deep cynicism, of entrenched and growing inequality, and amidst the ongoing global train wreck that is capitalism, what could be more fun?” And I guess the process will be fun if it is a “prescription for transformative change” to “equality”. Imho, that kind of change can be instituted from the top down, but success depends upon it instituting transformation from the bottom up, *beginning* with equality for the poorest of the poor, achieved in a manner that is self-scaling and ultimately transforms the economic pyramid, in which money migrates to the affluent, into an economic ecosystem in which money continuously circulates like water in a forest that brings every nutrient through the smallest roots.

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