Comments on: Mapping the emerging post-capitalist paradigm, and its main thinkers

By: Toni

Toni — Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:00:33 +0000

I apologise for not contributing the enlarge the feminine side but as first thought, definitively Noam Chomsky and Zygmunt Bauman should be there.

By: Grayson Cowing

Grayson Cowing — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:03:42 +0000

Where’s Gayatri Spivak? Why is there a bigot like Gandhi on this list? Are you serious? Why is it almost exclusively men?! This is wildly inappropriate and it makes the academic community look like a bunch of patriarchal fascists.

By: Gaspard Bos

Gaspard Bos — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 13:07:00 +0000

+ George Lakoff, somewhere around politics.
Looking forward to the next version.

By: Erik

Erik — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:01:21 +0000

Can this infographic become a “mind map” like crowdsourced tool for the community to contribute in the curatorship of movements and thinkers?

I’d love to share some of Brazil’s p2p cases there.

Cheers

By: Christo van Staden

Christo van Staden — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:02:59 +0000

Consider including C. Otto Scharmer, who looks at the social and organisational of “new/post” capitalisms.

By: Natasha

Natasha — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 05:53:40 +0000

I agree with many comments here i.e. lack of women, many prominent thinkers left off etc. I don’t like to think in terms of ‘persons of colour’ as someone mentioned it (although technically I can be considered one) however, if we are taking into account various perspectives, Latin American academics, intellectuals and practitioners are completely left off all together. What about Buen Vivir for example, which is one of the most promising alternatives to capitalist development, and the social economy that accompanies it, what about Alberto Acosta, Arturo Escobar, Antonio Gudynas, Tortosa, Quijano, Prada…? So many more that have a lot of valuable insights to offer to the discussion for a pathway forward

By: Michael Pulsford

Michael Pulsford — Wed, 17 Feb 2016 02:51:29 +0000

This crew are worth checking out if you don’t know them: http://www.communityeconomies.org/Home

By: Steve Bean

Steve Bean — Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:47:18 +0000

I suppose that ending the global (dominant) cultural belief in the concept of exchange would require a separate graphic.

Commenter Simon Tremblay asked about RBE proponents (Fresco, Joseph, Pistono), but The Money Choice (Facebook page) proposes a direct path to ending money use (and subsequent impacts on all areas represented in your diagrams), whereas most RBE proponents see it as a later possibility.

By: Graciela

Graciela — Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:46:26 +0000

Thank you for sharing this! We have translated this post and the figures to Brazilian Portuguese:

http://blog.movimentozeitgeist.com.br/MAPEANDO-O-PARADIGMA-POS-CAPITALISTA-EMERGENTE-E-SEUS-PRINCIPAIS-PENSADORES/

We hope the improvements people suggested here can be added soon!

By: Timothy Wong

Timothy Wong — Sat, 05 Dec 2015 13:03:41 +0000

@Bob Haugen,

Yes, I noticed the same thing. The signifier “Karl Marx” is too laden and over-determined even for a list like this, it would seem.

My own suggestion for the – very generally speaking – “neo-Marxist” Immanuel Wallerstein was similarly overlooked.

To quote one of my Facebook friend’s reaction.

My first thought on this paradigm (…) is that there is no place for positive political ideology or action, which I think may start from the “conscience” part of the paradigm.

I work in or am effected by the worlds diagrammed, which means (I suppose) that they constitute the world about which I have no choice but to accept or resist.

But I (and others, and everybody else) do have a choice regarding how we construct or respond to our conscience, which I can only see as a struggle we all must make as individual thinkers and actors.

Would not this be the realm in which we make our arguments, attempt to convince our friends (and importantly those who WOULD be our friends) and defeat (or better yet, convince) our enemies?

So, I guess, to sum up my comments: the diagram suffers from over-determination, and leaves no place for action.”

We need praxis and a groups of political agents.

The praxis given in the above diagram is the rather inchoate notion of “direct democracy” associated with Lawrence Lessig and David Graeber. However, this is inchoate as it still requires a programmatic praxis as to how a fully formed political “demos” can be formed in the first place.

Again, I would refer to Immanuel Wallerstein’s post-Marxist description of the “Multiple Left”. Similar is “the multitude” as described by Hardt and Negri.Wallerstein’s work on the limitations and the failures of the “anti-systemic” movements which have historically existed thus far are also valuable.

I think that the groups and movements associated with the World Social Forum are promising. The WSF is in large measure anti-colonial, anti-imperialist. Which is a major omission from the above diagram.

Rather then the proletariat as the “universal class” of traditional Marxism, the groups and movements of the World Social Forum are the “multiple Left” as described by Immanuel Wallerstein. Or “the multitude” as described by Hardt and Negri.