Comments on: How networked culture differs from postmodernism

By: Bob Haugen

Bob Haugen — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:24:16 +0000

“that doesn’t mean we have no powers of self-creation in this process of individuation”…

I agree. But much less than the pat-yourself-on-the-back rugged-individualists think.

As in “born on third base and thought he’d hit a home run”.

By: Michel Bauwens

Michel Bauwens — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:56:17 +0000

In reply to Bob Haugen. we are social creatures; but that doesn't mean we have no powers of self-creation in this process of individuation ... George Simondon is good; though complex, on this

By: Bob Haugen

Bob Haugen — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:14:03 +0000

Like “contributory identity”.

By: Bob Haugen

Bob Haugen — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:13:24 +0000

I mostly don’t believe in the common meaning of “the individual”. I think humans are social creations from birth to death. Mind develops socially, language, identity (or identities: I think you have different identities in different social contexts), ideas, skills, the whole ball of wax.

By: Michel Bauwens

Michel Bauwens — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:09:45 +0000

In reply to Bob Haugen. though i call p2p a form of networked individualism, I believe it is quite different than classic individuality; because we are able to self-allocate different 'fragments' of our selves to different common projects and thereby construct a contributory identity.

By: Bob Haugen

Bob Haugen — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:50:45 +0000

“In network theory, a node’s relationship to other networks is more important than its own uniqueness. Similarly, today we situate ourselves less as individuals and more as the product of multiple networks composed of both humans and things.”

This is somewhat the opposite of what I understand Nikos Salingaros to be saying over here:
http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/beyond-left-and-right-peer-to-peer-themes-and-urban-priorities-for-the-self-organizing-society-by-nikos-a-salingaros/2010/04/29

Salingaros seemed to be to be championing individualism.

(But then both of these essays are pretty fuzzy…)

I feel myself to be a node.

By: Sepp

Sepp — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:41:20 +0000

“Along with this change in the self comes a new attitude toward privacy … As the subject is increasingly less sure of where the self begins and ends, the question of what should be private and what not fades.”

I can only confirm that – having lived through a good part of the change. Privacy is not an overriding concern of the networked culture nowhere near as important as it seemed some decades back. This allows us to see “privacy protection” laws in a more distant view and to see that, contrary to what we’re made to believe, paradoxically they protect the state more than the individual.

Openness and transparency are the new values that come with the network culture and they are increasingly embraced by individuals.

What remains to be done is to make governments adopt those values. “State secret” is no longer tenable in a networked culture. In a truly democratic society, should not the individuals that make up the society be fully appraised of what their elected and appointed representatives are up to?