Comments on: How Greer’s catabolic collapse challenges Kevin Carson’s ephemerilisation thesis https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-greers-catabolic-collapse-challenges-kevin-carsons-ephemerilisation-thesis/2013/10/11 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.14 By: Øyvind Holmstad https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-greers-catabolic-collapse-challenges-kevin-carsons-ephemerilisation-thesis/2013/10/11/comment-page-1#comment-554417 Mon, 14 Oct 2013 07:06:00 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=33531#comment-554417 The present infrastructure is meant to increase efficiency, not resilience. For a society based on resilience we need an infrastructure based in the pattern technology of Christopher Alexander, which is something completely different. So our civilisation will fall, as it’s pursuing efficiency, not resilience, according to capitalistic philosophy.

]]> By: PG https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-greers-catabolic-collapse-challenges-kevin-carsons-ephemerilisation-thesis/2013/10/11/comment-page-1#comment-553911 Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:12:38 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=33531#comment-553911 “All this displays one of the more troubling failures of contemporary intellectual culture, an almost physiological inability to think in terms of whole systems.”

Right. And the author goes in this type of failure as by stating:

“As infrastructure increases in scale and complexity, the costs of maintenance rise to equal and exceed the available economic surplus; the period of prosperity ends in political and economic failure, and infrastructure falls into ruin as its maintenance costs are no longer paid.”

Regrettably, distribution of income and assets and their social relations of production do not enter the notion being presented. Quite possibly, for a P2P society, the equipment “overshoot” would not exist in first instance.

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