https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/2007/02/09 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Thu, 10 May 2007 00:01:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/2007/02/09/comment-page-1#comment-70276 Thu, 10 May 2007 00:01:35 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/2007/02/09/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/#comment-70276 I was going to leave a comment, but then realized that I would become more fodder for the exploitative nature of the Web. So I guess now you’ll just have to pay me, because having people offer free contributions to a site is evil.

]]> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/2007/02/09/comment-page-1#comment-47011 Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:19:44 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/2007/02/09/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/#comment-47011 […] Paradoxical argument (don’t know if this is a valid way of arguing?) The users create the content but has little control of data, appearance, functionality and connections to other communities- exploitation of free labour? […]

]]> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/2007/02/09/comment-page-1#comment-38199 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:24:13 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/2007/02/09/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/#comment-38199 […] How Ethical is the new Web 2.0 business model? (Trebor Scholz) » P2P Foundation In this excerpt, Trebor reviews five ethical requirements, and how well Web 2.0 business models are stacking up. (tags: p2p ethics SocialSoftware web2.0 socialmedia social business SSDI2007) […]

]]> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/2007/02/09/comment-page-1#comment-33965 Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:57:33 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/2007/02/09/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/#comment-33965 […] Two interesting blog posts over at P2P Foundation about the ethics of the web 2.0 business model. The main idea of this business model is that “corporations are aggregating and selling our attention”. So the question is this: Is it a fantastic example of voluntary creation of social wealth, or the shameless exploitation of free labour? […]

]]> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/2007/02/09/comment-page-1#comment-29860 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:08:31 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/2007/02/09/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/#comment-29860 […] Is this ethical? What would an ethically sound system of retribution look like? Follow the debate here. […]

]]> https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/2007/02/09/comment-page-1#comment-29838 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:03:24 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/2007/02/09/how-ethical-is-the-new-web-20-business-model-trebor-scholz/#comment-29838 Michel- this is a great piece that neatly summarizes the key questions about web 2.0 and immatrial labour. The thics issue is tricky I think. I don’t think you can simply apply any of the old established perspectives of moral philosophy, utalitarianism, virtue ethics etc- they were all elaborate for different historical sictuatiions. What immaterial labour lacks right now is the fundamental ground for being able to speak of ethics, exploitation, just measure etc- namely a theory of value. How much is your labour/time worth when you write reviews on amazon? If we can’t say that we will never be able to tell wetehr you are being explited or not: maybe the attention that you get form amazon readers is in fact just compensation. I think this is the fundamental point for theoretical politics right now, to find a theory of value rather than letting the value of labour/time simply be determined by the capitalist market. How would such a theory of value look like? Maybe there is no universal theory at all, but more a number of emerging value networks with their own units of measure? An economy of qualities, as some people speak of now (see coming blog post form me), a number of folksonomies. I have no clue 🙂

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