Comments on: Gordon Cook: comparing the P2P Foundation approach to John Robb’s global guerillas https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/gordon-cook-comparing-the-p2p-foundation-approach-to-john-robbs-global-guerillas/2010/08/22 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:04:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Michel Bauwens https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/gordon-cook-comparing-the-p2p-foundation-approach-to-john-robbs-global-guerillas/2010/08/22/comment-page-1#comment-437526 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:04:58 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=10235#comment-437526 In reply to GoneWithTheWind.

Hi,

I can only assume you didn’t read the text you are commenting on, or only with such ideological blinders that you couldn’t see what was there. I concede that an argument could be made that stalinist states were a form of state capitalism, with capital accumulated by the state instead of by monopolies, but as far as I know, state capitalism was not marked by high prices. This being said, since there is no advocacy of state ownership in the text, your arguments are not related to it, and your argument/prediction that democratic p2p advocates “will use force to impose a new Csar”, are quite laughable.

]]> By: GoneWithTheWind https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/gordon-cook-comparing-the-p2p-foundation-approach-to-john-robbs-global-guerillas/2010/08/22/comment-page-1#comment-437393 Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:14:36 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=10235#comment-437393 Your message is anti-capitalism but in fact you are pro-capitalism but want to own or control the capitalism. Contrary to what most people believe capitalism is not a political system like democracy or socialism is. All forms of government use capitalism and in fact Socialism depends on capitalism to survive. The primary difference in how this is done is that either the leaders/government “owns” all capitalism OR there is freedom and anyone can pursue capitalism. In the U.S. our freedoms allow us to dabble in capitalism and for the most part our success or lack of it depends upon our energy and inventiveness. In a socialist system the government controls capitalism and their succes depends upon preventing any competition. This usually results in the worst possible scenario for citizens, i.e. high prices, low quality, low supply. In short I don’t see the difference between what you say and what a classic socialist has said in the past. It appears you are using the crisis to install yourselves as the new Czar and will use force to oppose anyone who does not agree with you.

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