Comments on: Douglas Rushkoff: What Wikileaks tells us about the need for a second, “People’s Internet” https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/douglas-rushkoff-what-wikileaks-tells-us-about-the-need-for-a-second-peoples-internet/2010/12/23 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Sat, 25 Dec 2010 01:34:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Michel Bauwens https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/douglas-rushkoff-what-wikileaks-tells-us-about-the-need-for-a-second-peoples-internet/2010/12/23/comment-page-1#comment-458090 Sat, 25 Dec 2010 01:34:48 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=12560#comment-458090 In reply to katie.

thanks Katie!

]]> By: katie https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/douglas-rushkoff-what-wikileaks-tells-us-about-the-need-for-a-second-peoples-internet/2010/12/23/comment-page-1#comment-458000 Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:32:06 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=12560#comment-458000 for the curious, gordon cook is a good resource,

http://www.cookreport.com/

and greg ruggiero and possibly mcchesney, also knew about the diversion from p2p wireless into the centralized dns system.

and of course dave hughes—knows everything.

]]> By: katie https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/douglas-rushkoff-what-wikileaks-tells-us-about-the-need-for-a-second-peoples-internet/2010/12/23/comment-page-1#comment-457996 Fri, 24 Dec 2010 18:18:55 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=12560#comment-457996 such a shame that the packet radio p2p back and forth 2 way, was not developed into live functioning wireless digital *networks*
http://www.tapr.org/pr_intro.html

http://wireless.oldcolo.com/course/texas/charts.htm
and with it, the possibilities of p2p spread spectrum *networks* rather than dns hierarchies and main node controller points

http://wireless.oldcolo.com/course/

there was a moment in the early 90’s when the net could have developed along peer to peer wireless and small hub networks.

but the intelligence agencies were terrified of the possibility of decentralized and completely hidden-from-view networks
http://cryptome.org/prd-27-prep.htm

and the 1996 telecom act (mccain’s giveaway to the telecom/media corps) sealed the fate of p2p wireless from going mainstream by diverting the several billions collected annually off our telephone bills in what was originally known as the schools&libraries connection tax–those funds were channeled strictly into major telecom connection via corporate fiber, cable, wire, and microwave transmission systems.

IIRC, spread spectrum was actually being used by the early mid 90’s by the intelligence folks for undetectable wireless p2p transmission (undetectable, in that frequency sniffers could not detect or find the digital streams because they existed below the level of background noise, and jumped frequencies too fast to be detected as non-random streams.)

archives of listserv at telecom-l will demonstrate the kind of overwhelming firepower that the cables&phones brought to bear to squelch any tax funded development of p2p wireless. and they have vacuumed up literally hundreds of billions now of tax money to secure centralized control of the digital transmission systems.

lots of people know more about this than i do. i don’t think the story has ever been told properly–how we lost the public decentralized internet.

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