Comments on: Decentralized Co-Creation of Value as a New Paradigm in Commerce and Culture

By: S Rhodes

S Rhodes — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:07:45 +0000

To add to Michel’s point, you seem to have it a bit backward, Jon. To expect perfection may be naive, but that’s no reason not to strive for it. Failures are always far more common than successes, and they provide a lot of insight. Successes are BUILT on the lessons of failures, and they can only be built when vision sees past them to some untapped potential.

We can learn a lot from Wikipedia, such as the importance of transparency and guiding principles, one of which should have been “DO NOT DELETE MATERIAL.” In our analysis of failures, we can certainly come up with smarter ways to identify them early, if not significantly prevent them.

I don’t know if we have any entries that provide an overview of the “real obstructions to peersonhood,” but I’d be interested in seeing one. I haven’t seen any problems so big as to not have potential solutions waiting to be tested and revised. We can get the conversation going right here on the wiki.

By: Michel Bauwens

Michel Bauwens — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:56:25 +0000

Co-creation of value is simply there, and is in the process of becoming a very important part of our social processes. The point is therefore: how can we efficient and democratic co-creation processes as opposed to dysfunctional ones. It’s pretty much like representational democracy: we know it is usually better than dictatorship, but it can be very dysfunctional. Similary, we can recognize that peer governance is a potential social advance, while recognizing it pitfalls and working to remove them. David Bollier, if you check onthecommons.org is all but a naive pundit, and has been working hard around issues of the governance of the commons.

By: Jon Awbrey

Jon Awbrey — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:00:37 +0000

I really hate to be the constant party pooper, but we’ve been hearing all about the Bazaar and the Cathedral for years now, then came Wikipedia and Citizendium to show us the Bizarre tragedies of dysfunctional coalition formation in the Commons.

Until our best-loved peer pundits start showing us that they have lowered their visions to the level of the very real obstructions to peersonhood that have reared their ugly heads over the last decade, then I’m afraid that their visions will remain more in the realm of pleasant hallucinations than realizable dreams.