Comments on: Contra Rifkin (2): no, the commons are not anti-market https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/contra-rifkin-2-no-the-commons-are-not-anti-market/2014/10/05 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Wed, 08 Oct 2014 07:58:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.15 By: Steven Palmer https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/contra-rifkin-2-no-the-commons-are-not-anti-market/2014/10/05/comment-page-1#comment-918457 Wed, 08 Oct 2014 07:58:42 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=42239#comment-918457 “The commons exists not in opposition to monetized trade, free markets, and private property, but in productive harmony with all three.”

“Productive Harmony” couldn’t be further from the reality of constant “Systemic Threat”. The Relationship of Markets and Commons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYorzUKYZUQ

Markets and Commons can co-exist, but they don’t, and ideally we don’t want them to exist in such close relationship, due to power imbalance. The effects of this cosy relationship between power and powerlessness is displayed by Eric Raymond’s identity crisis and reactionary rebuttal. Completely co-opted he perceives Open Source as virtually synonymous with Capitalism, any competing alternative is a direct threat to his being, to be defended with malice and passed off as “Communism”.

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By: Karl https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/contra-rifkin-2-no-the-commons-are-not-anti-market/2014/10/05/comment-page-1#comment-916960 Tue, 07 Oct 2014 05:41:49 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=42239#comment-916960 Mr. Raymond is a market fundamentalist, so what could you expect him to say? Commons is a perfectly nice word and his vehement negative semantic reaction to it is a symptom of this fundamentalism.

Reputation plays only a very small role in the free software commons. Most users don’t have a clue who writes the software they use. For developers it’s also of little relevance as the qualities of the software itself are what attracts them. This is the beauty of the commons – people don’t have to pay homage to individuals as they do in a market.

Eric admits that the commons are in conflict with concentrated capital. Unfortunately for us, this is precisely what markets produce over time. The market dominance of Microsoft and Apple had nothing to do with government involvement.

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