Comments on: Collective sensing and meaning making for the commons movements https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/collective-sensing-and-meaning-making-for-the-commons-movements/2013/06/10 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:11:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.14 By: marina https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/collective-sensing-and-meaning-making-for-the-commons-movements/2013/06/10/comment-page-1#comment-540131 Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:11:30 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=31502#comment-540131 very apt post. i’ve been volunteering with folks working on oaklandwiki.org, an instance of the localwiki.org wiki platform (which i’ve recently started working with) which is a wysiwyg wiki platform specifically for communities to use. in allowing communities to write about and map whatever they want, i think that it offers the opportunity for people to collaboratively write and share instances of collaboration & the commons in a community-controlled OS environment (eg, “every tuesday at 2PM, there is free food at the corner of x and y streets”) and also create knowledge from information and make meaning out of what we see in our communities and communities around the world.

– marina

]]> By: June Gorman https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/collective-sensing-and-meaning-making-for-the-commons-movements/2013/06/10/comment-page-1#comment-540130 Mon, 01 Jul 2013 18:43:37 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=31502#comment-540130 There is a very important “voice of community of commonality” that you manage to convey here in this piece, George and it is the “voice” of both shared purpose and shared passion that should be common to all of us striving for “understanding and acknowledgment” of the other (to paraphrase from Michel’s piece that you quoted above) in this work of building a “commons community”. And everything I have learn or have taught about emotional and social/cultural intelligence(s), tells me this essential communication of community ultimately HAS to be done interpersonally — why “meeting” and interpersonal dialogue are so critical to the core passion that will drive this movement and that I think you are trying to address here.

That “mutual support” and the “making of meaning” you talk about here George, needs to be FELT to reach our deepest motivation and heart centers to continue to do this work, which you and others like you are trying to coalesce in some comprehensive form so that we can find and converse, and collaborate with each other. And I honor that attempt and the tools created to manage that “knowledge” flow, as I do the same attempt of the new NORA wiki of the Commons Abundance Network (http://commonsabundance.net) for the same purpose.

But please don’t forget the “language of limits” inherent in that design, not just the dominating English language, but the even now more constrictive machine language and certainly the western-enlightenment-left-brain imbalanced educated language that is unavoidably reinforced over the passion and poetry of nature, art, diversity, difference and loving so necessary to any authentic force of any commons movement that would not only like to encompass these too, but use them as the very source of the renewable energy of that movement. For this, we need to be able to “play” with each other and for this we need to remember the gift of the children amongst and within each of us.

Just to remember that the language of these information processing machines and their capabilities in helping to try and organize and process the massive information flood you speak of, also reinforces that view of a reduced binary bit world and the “code” it uses far more understood and appreciated by the technology-minded among us, and also by its non-nature nature, reinforces it. That should only mean we more strongly vocalize, validate and understand the need as Michel and you both try above, for places and ways of “gathering” in “place-together” to create that emotion-motion and deeper-level communication that truly drives all relationships and thus all true community and different “ways of knowing”. And must thus never be forgotten as the true beating heart of that “Commons”, despite the efficacy and efficiency and even necessity of using this technology to forge those initial commonalities and communications.

In that context, I think the attempt you are trying to make here is noble.

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