Comments on: A strategic framework for demonetization https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-strategic-framework-for-demonetization/ Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Mon, 04 Apr 2011 04:14:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.16 By: Poor Richard https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-strategic-framework-for-demonetization/comment-page-1/#comment-482331 Mon, 04 Apr 2011 04:14:47 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14721#comment-482331 I don’t see money per se as a problem. In fact if you take it away from ordinary people they will invent it again. The problem is that the institutions and rules of a particular currency system tend to be captured over time and gamed by special interests. New currencies need to pay particular attention to preventing capture and corruption. Localization may help with this but I don’t know of any research. On the other hand localization makes money less fungible and that might depress purchasing power and exchange rates compared to more generic currency.

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By: Eric K. https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-strategic-framework-for-demonetization/comment-page-1/#comment-482219 Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:55:34 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14721#comment-482219 Christian :

20 m2 (“4×5”) for 2kg of food : WITH NO ENERGY ; JUST THE SUN

Read more my links,

build thos 4×5 square meter, in 2×1 x 2 cubic meter

you build your own food

OF COURSE : You will need basic knowledge about the culture … and how to maximise your bio fertilizer

All those information may take 40 lines !

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And this is not : a time do question yourself

YOU don’t want the collapse of your society do you ?

It may happen, people and yo must ave food autonym : this is precaution principle ( did you see50% of woman have been raped in haiti since the disaster )

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=aeroponic&_sacat=0&_sop=16&_odkw=hydroponic&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A4026&rt=nc&_nkw=hydroponic&_npmv=3&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=16&_sc=1

http://www.cityplantes.com/produit/2685/Pi-Wall–mur-vegetal.htm

http://www.cityplantes.com/produit/1693/Hydrosystem-EcoSystem-avec-pains-de-LdR.htm

This SHALL BE OPENSOURCE

and in every home

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By: Christian https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-strategic-framework-for-demonetization/comment-page-1/#comment-482199 Sat, 02 Apr 2011 08:57:41 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14721#comment-482199 Eric: The idea of urban hydroponics is certainly intriguing, however so far, I don’t really buy the claim that this is feasible in terms of energy inputs. So far, I didn’t find any calculation about the energy balance of this type of agriculture. And certainly, you need energy: First, to produce the means of production and even more so if you have to use artificial light. So do you have any information about a reliable calculation of its energy balance?

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By: Franz Nahrada https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-strategic-framework-for-demonetization/comment-page-1/#comment-482192 Sat, 02 Apr 2011 08:15:07 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14721#comment-482192 # Eric

I never said that everybody has immediately to go to the countryside, we would need a long term reversal of a century – long devastation.

But I am warning from continuing “do-it-yourself” fixes and calling for local cooperation and specialisation in nonmonetary cooperatives, calling for “urban villages” if you like….

We need effective technologies and yes, food autonomy is a crucial component.

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By: Eric K. https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-strategic-framework-for-demonetization/comment-page-1/#comment-482104 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:14:18 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14721#comment-482104 It is not the lack of energy that will cause the death of people

it is the lack of food

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By: Eric K. https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-strategic-framework-for-demonetization/comment-page-1/#comment-482099 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:38:54 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14721#comment-482099 the food autonomy is the key for changing all values

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By: Eric K. https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-strategic-framework-for-demonetization/comment-page-1/#comment-482098 Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:37:56 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=14721#comment-482098 i think we must keep in mind :

small projects , with BIG IMPACT

We cannot change the world ( even with the global village ) : we are here and now

And most poverty is in fact in big cities … Do you want Millions people to go in small villages ? … … I think it is not possible to return in the past, and will cost million of life

Relevant project on hydroponics : will have also big impacts

The institute for simplified hydroponics has what we need ; a passive hydroponic that does not NEED ENERGY

WindowFarm is good and wrong idea

STEP ONE : OPENSOURCE BASIC HYDROPONIC FOR EVERYONE

http://www.instructables.com/id/Hydroponic-float-system/

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs184

http://www.abdolian.com/thoughts/?p=3543

STEP TWO : AUTOMATIZED MICRO FOOD FARM ( the size a refrigerator – or two refrigerator )

Within the next decade you will be able to grow all of your vegetables in a box barely larger than your refrigerator.

Future food for cities

http://www.kurzweilai.net/future-food-for-cities

This is the GOAL

A 4 cubic meter micro farm for a family

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