Money getting more expensive, or increasing in value as Bitcoin is projected to do is a mechanism that transfers value from those who don’t have money to those who have it, just like interest does. So from a social standpoint, Bitcoin is no better than our traditional government backed bankers’ money.

This is an excellent point and the reason I believe Bitcoin is quite possibly an unintentional scam–great for early adopters, terrible for those late to the party. Bitcoin cannot prosper in a modern economy of expansion due to lack of credit mechanisms and elasticity. “Money” has inflated over the centuries due to requirements of it for commerce. A pure IOU based system superimposed on a scarce commodity results in total IOU amounts dwarfing the underlying, which is why modern finance and monetary systems have abandoned the gold standard for fiat. The problem with the current system has more to do with morality than utility, i.e. the Fed does not have a regulator without conflicted interests (US gov’t needs credit to continue entitlements and pork barrel spending, and banks need the Fed to bail them out when they gamble.)

As Sepp has hinted at, if one can develop a self-governed cryptocurrency that incorporates elasticity (and I add a system of credit), it could possibly win out in the end.

Lotta magical thinking about money these days. If only we had some magical new form of money, all would be well. Or at least things would be improved.

How? If everything including the earth and your mother is a commodity for sale, how would a new form of money make any difference?

But as one of the commenters says, the gates are open. The hurdles to launching a new currency have been lowered to almost zero by the advent of the Bitcoin code, which is open source and can therefore be forked and adapted to any use we might desire.

I for one would like to propose that someone capable of coding and some smart minds who can set the direction do just that and launch a currency based on the Bitcoin code, but with relative stability (not inflation and not deflation) coded into the currency’s very personality.

Money is just permission to access resources. It’s a primitive mechanism for controlling human behavior. However, I can access the system of public roads and parks where I live wihout money because society has already given me permission to use them. I can get free software and music from the internet because the creators have already given me permisson. We can extend more permission to each other if we choose to do so.

If Bitcoin is flawed as you claim then consumers will choose not to consume it, as they do with any other economic good they consume. This freedom of choice in the money industry and the competition among currencies will lead to the money best meeting the consumer’s needs at the least cost to society will gain the greatest market share. May the best currency win.

The author then states, again, that ‘gold is now expensive’; he clearly does not understand that the value of gold has not changed; it is the value of the fiat paper money that has decreased as the State’s fraudulent expansion of the money supply has robbed everyone. What he is feeling is misdirected outrage as subconsciously, he understands that he is being stolen from, without being able to put his finger on precisely where the criminal is or how he is stealing.

Typical gold bug/anti fiat fallacy. If it is the case that the value of gold is determined solely by the amount of currency in the system, why has the price of gold depreciated significantly during these latter stages of QE? The reality is the value of gold, like any other commodity, is determined solely by demand for, and supply of it in an economy. This demand, in turn, is dictated by current utility (such as ornamental or industrial) and perceived future utility (ex., as an anti-inflationary instrument). Bitcoin serves as a transactional system, providing a form of utility, but the fatal flaw is the value of this system is determined in large part by *speculation* of its further utility; moreover, that utility will at some point fail to serve the economy due to its inherent inelasticity and lack of credit mechanisms. As economies expand, currency supply must also expand (ideally, sans inflationary implications) at a pace that meets the demands of the expanding economy. Bitcoin can never achieve this goal, just as gold failed to in times past, because it is scarce.

At some point in the future the music will stop, the lights will turn on and there will not be enough chairs to accommodate the final rush of greater fools.

If a Bitcoin credit system is ever implemented, it will be Ponzi in nature, just as the current credit system is–so we are left to question the real value it offers over extant monetary mechanisms. In fact, I would be willing to wager that the reason Mt. Gox failed was due to their attempt to implement an internal system of credit on top of Bitcoin. Credit systems are by nature inflationary and scarcity-based money systems are by nature deflationary. The conflicts introduced by these particular attributes have been proven through the evolution of markets and economies to strain or inhibit their function and growth, respectively.

The issues raised by the author (aside from the “hoarding” piffle) are legitimate and strike at the very core of the Bitcoin value proposal, which indelibly is left to the greater fool to determine.

It must be designed to increase in value over time and Bitcoin is designed to do so.
You can think of it as a built in interest rate.

I my view it does not make the currency expensive, it makes it cheap.

If you want to buy something worth $500 you can get use Bitcions worth $500 and buy your stuff. The amount or the value of the currency does not matter. The only thing that matters is that you do not have to pay a high transaction fee.

In my view an expensive currency would be a currency designed to make you lose value.
Such as Fiat.
Yet Fiat is needed by governments as a tool to control export, increasing the wealth of the population. However as governments competes in lowering the value of their currencies the store of wealth is affected negatively.

As Bernard Lietaer says, we need two kinds of currencies.
Bitcoin and gold are two that could be the other kind. But gold was not designed to function electronically, its hard to prove you own the gold.
We all know that business and our currency is moving online and you can prove you own the Bitcoins.

It only lacks the notion that money (or currencies) is a public good, a commons. Therefore it must be managed as such.

Bitcoin is designed to behave like gold because gold is money, and it is the best money that the world has ever known. It has lasted for six thousand years as money, whereas all fiat currencies (paper money) without exception, have collapsed, harming the very people the author is interested in protecting. All of the fiat currencies of the past that have collapsed have done so from hyper-inflation. The most recent example being the Zimbabwe Dollar. This is not philosophy or opinion, or something based merely on belief; this is fact. Hyperinflation is inevitable in fiat currencies, and this is destructive to the people who hold those currencies. Even without it, inflation (an increase in the supply of money) at a set rate harms savers as their money loses value.

Bitcoin does not suffer from the same problem as gold; it shares the advantages of gold. Gold is not ‘expensive’ it holds its value over time. A statement like this betrays a lack of understanding of the author about the basics of monetary theory.

The argument against Bitcoin that it does not address the interest issue is a red herring. Who offers what services in Bitcoin is up to the entrepreneurs that create services with it, and it must be said, that the one billion Muslims on the earth are forbidden from participating in banking that involves interest; does this mean that the author believes all Islamic banks are fundamentally flawed? There is no ‘interest issue’. Money needs to be scarce in order for it to have value. The fact that Bitcoin is scarce is one of its attractive qualities. When we hear phrases like ‘hight cost for capital’ we are listening to a subjective opinion; capital has a cost that is set by the market, not by the wishes of observers with a political agenda.

We then get a common fallacious argument; the ‘hoarding problem’ this has been refuted time and time again, and there is no reason for me to explain it here, use the Google. Suffice to say for those who know, the ‘hoarding problem’ is Keynesian claptrap.

Money should be a good store of value first and foremost. Money with this property means that you can save it without it losing its value. Savings are the source of capital, not the government printing press. The designer of Bitcoin understood this, as do the people who understand that gold is the best money man has used to date. Money is a means of exchange, this is true, but its form is important. If money is created by the State, its value can be arbitrarily decreased to fund cronyism. This is theft from the people who use the currency. Anyone who argues for this form of money is arguing for the theft of value from the poor.

The author then states, again, that ‘gold is now expensive’; he clearly does not understand that the value of gold has not changed; it is the value of the fiat paper money that has decreased as the State’s fraudulent expansion of the money supply has robbed everyone. What he is feeling is misdirected outrage as subconsciously, he understands that he is being stolen from, without being able to put his finger on precisely where the criminal is or how he is stealing.

Bitcoin is not being hoarded by its users. It is being traded every day in a very limited number of retail outlets that are accepting it. Once again, to refute the fallacies of ‘the hoarding problem’ you should use Google. Bitcoin’s primary function is to act as a medium of exchange and eventually, it will act as a store of value, once it is widely accepted. That is the purpose of all money.

I agree with the author that we should not wait for the government to reform money, and that there is a free market (for now) in currencies. I suggest that if he thinks Bitcoin would operate better with a steadily increasing money supply, that he downloads the source code for Bitcoin, fork it, and change it so that the number of Bitcoins in circulation increases as Keynesians prescribe. We can then test each currency against the other in the market, and see who wins. I think that in such a contest, Bitcoin will win, because its behaviour will be more money like over time.

I believe Bernard Lietaer’s work comes close to a solution: He proposes dual currency systems.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/84816011/Bernard-Lietaer-The-Monetary-Blind-Spot-Yin-and-Yang-Money

Bitcoin would be a patriarchical currency here, but one of the best we’ve ever had at that, because it’s open and transparent in how it works. It’s controlled by an authority, but that authority is incorruptible computer code that everyone can review.

A patriarchical currency *has* to be scarce in order to be universally accepted. Where- and whenever such a currency proves to be insufficient to back a community’s economy, people can resort to local currencies, time trading, the Ripple system etc to provide ad-hoc liquidity. These are naturally credit- and thus trust-based concepts and abundant, but therefore cannot be used for anonymous, long-distance trading.

It’s indeed like yin and yang.