Comments on: Peer to peer and the feudal transition https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Thu, 30 May 2013 01:34:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.14 By: Poor Richard https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10/comment-page-1#comment-535798 Thu, 30 May 2013 01:34:30 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10#comment-535798 Michel, as you know I see the phase shift more in terms of a shift from the authoritarian-subordination organization paradigm (top-down, monopolistic, centralized, exploitative, growth-centered, orthodox, monocultural, autocratic, etc.) to an egalitarian-subsidiarity organization paradigm (niche-appropriate diversity, micro-cultural, homeostatic, modular, composabile, symbiotic, synergistic, subsidiar, confederated, cooperative, democratic, etc.). Both capitalism and socialism can take either of these forms. Even the use-value vs exchange-value distinctions (both have their place) are IMO less significant than the organizational paradigm. Also, IMO artificial abundance is no more valid than artificial scarcity. Any so-called abundance which does not simultaneously diminish the precarity of producers and increase the quality of product is artificial.

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There will be a shift from extensive material development, to intensive immaterial development. The core logic of the creation of immaterial cultural, intellectual and spiritual value in this coming world of open design, will be non-reciprocal peer production.

Michel,

1. Do you mean, There will be a shift of emphasis from extensive material development…? Things like food production, infrastructure, etc. may require continued extensive material development even if the priority shifts to intensive material development

2. I am skeptical or should I say wary about non-reciprocity in the creation of intellectual works & etc. A case in point is the way Facebook captures and commercializes the fruits of its content creators’ labor without any reciprocal sharing of revenues. I would prefer a norm where revenues generated at any level in a value chain would be proportionately distributed back downward to the various producers to whom portions of the work can be attributed. To allow otherwise is IMO to encourage neofeudalistic trends.

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]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » After the US meltdown of 2008, China’s in 2015? https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10/comment-page-1#comment-314293 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:34:01 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10#comment-314293 […] particularly excited because it confirms my own analysis, which states that the current world system is going to hit a barrier of extensive globalization […]

]]> By: P2P Foundation » Blog Archive » Un-globalization and the prospects for the Chinese economy https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10/comment-page-1#comment-268720 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:10:55 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10#comment-268720 […] In my presentations on open business models, when I mention the emergence and future potential of open design communities linked to more relocalized production facilities, I always present the hypothesis that, if on the one hand the information globalization will continue and is sensible, on the other hand, the worldwide transportation of far-away goods is not sustainable. It’s the key to my analysis of the logic of the transition to peer to peer economic modes, which I explained in the editorial, P2P and the Feudal Transition. […]

]]> By: Sustainable Technologies Acceleration Network Blog » Blog Archive » How is peer to peer related to digital fabrication? https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10/comment-page-1#comment-129529 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:08:08 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10#comment-129529 […] If you really want original, but more controversial insights, on how peer to peer fits in with the trend to localized digital production efforts, then this is a good reference. […]

]]> By: Open source warfare and the dark side of P2P: it will get worse before it gets better » P2P Foundation https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10/comment-page-1#comment-111766 Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:12:18 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/peer-to-peer-and-the-feudal-transition/2007/09/10#comment-111766 , Robb then describes what will happen, say, after 2016. [...]]]> […] Mirroring our own vies on the relocalization of political and economic life, which I put forward in my recent article on ‘peer to peer and the feudal transition’ , Robb then describes what will happen, say, after 2016. […]

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