Comments on: Open Cooperativism for the P2P Age https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/open-cooperativism-for-the-p2p-age/2014/06/16 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Thu, 18 Sep 2014 09:35:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.14 By: Josef Davies-Coates https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/open-cooperativism-for-the-p2p-age/2014/06/16/comment-page-1#comment-839513 Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:46:49 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=39587#comment-839513 My thinking on Open Co-ops is very much aligned with Michel’s and the article I recently wrote for Stir Magazine is now online:

Open Co-ops: Inspiration, Legal Structures and Tools

]]> By: John Larwence https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/open-cooperativism-for-the-p2p-age/2014/06/16/comment-page-1#comment-772528 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:27:47 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=39587#comment-772528 Hi Michel

I think your new productive coop model is interesting. I have several questions.

1. Can you address Paul Bristow point above. How do you sustain the proposed productive coops in the current capitalist order without profits or participating in the market?

2. How would production priorities and distribution decisions be made in commons focused coop communities? How would worker-owners and other stakeholders be “paid?”

Thanks for your ideas.

Solidarity,

John Lawrence
Grassroots Economic Organizing (GEO) Newsletter
http://www.geo.coop

]]> By: eimhin https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/open-cooperativism-for-the-p2p-age/2014/06/16/comment-page-1#comment-766936 Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:18:55 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=39587#comment-766936 @David

Please explain that comment.

]]> By: Michel Bauwens https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/open-cooperativism-for-the-p2p-age/2014/06/16/comment-page-1#comment-764719 Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:53:14 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=39587#comment-764719 In reply to David de Ugarte.

ouf, as i’m neither a christian, nor platonic but a integrative thinker, this does not apply to me .. obviously my proposals are the contrary of what you imply. I support worker-owned coops as part of a pluralistic commonwealth, but now the time has come for new forms of cooperatives that produce commons and are governed by all involved commoners. So let’s take the case of the newly emerging solidarity coops that are doing excellent social care work in italy and quebec. You pose a good question and problem. In case of a cooperative school which is co-governed by its students, do you propose to exclude the rich kids ?

]]> By: David de Ugarte https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/open-cooperativism-for-the-p2p-age/2014/06/16/comment-page-1#comment-763940 Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:08:32 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=39587#comment-763940 Once the workers get finally control of their own lives, someone always appear for, in the name of Platonic/Christian «common good», retake the control for the good children of the elite…

]]> By: Paul Bristow https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/open-cooperativism-for-the-p2p-age/2014/06/16/comment-page-1#comment-763714 Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:11:35 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=39587#comment-763714 Absolutely like the direction of thinking here. The biggest issue is how to kickstart these in the context of the current economic system. If these new style co-ops can’t sustain themselves financially today, they won’t happen anywhere relevant, no matter how necessary.

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