Comments on: Book of the week (2): Why Tackling Property Rights and Democratic Planning are a environmental necessity https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-week-2-why-tackling-property-righs-and-democratic-planning-are-a-environmental-necessity/2011/11/30 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:51:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.14 By: Mrmagick https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-week-2-why-tackling-property-righs-and-democratic-planning-are-a-environmental-necessity/2011/11/30/comment-page-1#comment-487130 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:51:44 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=21072#comment-487130 All of the ecological ills that this book seeks to solve through government intervention were caused by lack of enforcement of property rights. I refuse to participate in any system that seeks to use the power of government (Force of Violence) in order to make me do something with my property against my will.

]]> By: Øyvind Holmstad https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-week-2-why-tackling-property-righs-and-democratic-planning-are-a-environmental-necessity/2011/11/30/comment-page-1#comment-487068 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:26:02 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=21072#comment-487068 “the key problem is political not technical.”

I fundamentally disagree with this, as the roots of the problem is that we are applying the “technologies of death”. We need a fundamentally new approach to technology: http://permaculture.org.au/2011/11/09/from-ideology-to-technology/

I too believe that property rights has it’s place within a pattern language, like in the Alexandrine pattern 87, Individually Owned Shops: http://permaculture.org.au/2011/03/04/the-ancient-taberna-in-a-future-world/

Just like the commons has its obvious place within other patterns in the language.

]]> By: Øyvind Holmstad https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-week-2-why-tackling-property-righs-and-democratic-planning-are-a-environmental-necessity/2011/11/30/comment-page-1#comment-487067 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:13:43 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=21072#comment-487067 Ecosocialism is a bit problematic to me, as it includes some kind of ideology. Personally I look upon myself as a “fractalist” supporting “fractalism”, using the “technology of life”: http://www.metropolismag.com/pov/author/nikos

All sustainable systems have fractal properties. I think you can just as well create the therm “ecoconservatism” as “ecosocialism”, as conservatism is originally about creating a strong civil society. This cannot happen in today’s corporatism capitalism, as a strong civil society is dependent upon the human scale, which again is fractal, which again is dependent upon time proven patterns and pattern languages.

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