Comments on: Book of the Day: Why Small-Scale Alternatives Won’t Change The World https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-day-why-small-scale-alternatives-wont-change-the-world/2013/01/29 Researching, documenting and promoting peer to peer practices Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:24:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.5.14 By: Kevin Carson https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-day-why-small-scale-alternatives-wont-change-the-world/2013/01/29/comment-page-1#comment-506504 Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:24:53 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=29159#comment-506504 “…replicate those localized economies on a global scale and starve the corporate beasts…”

I think this is precisely the mission of efforts like the P2PFoundation, Open Source Ecology, Permaculture, etc.

The beasts would’ve starved a long time ago without the corporate state to supply them with massive subsidies and to enforce the monpolies and regulatory cartels that protect them from destructive competition. The ever-growing costs of overcoming capitalism’s chronic crisis tendencies are sending the state into a spiral of fiscal crisis, and new technology is making things like the copyright and patent monopolies virtually unenforceable. And new technologies of ephemeralization are rendering the vast majority of investment capital useless.

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By: Karl https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-day-why-small-scale-alternatives-wont-change-the-world/2013/01/29/comment-page-1#comment-506347 Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:19:39 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=29159#comment-506347 I don’t get what everyone’s beef is with this piece. Mr. Sharzer is saying that removing some groups from distant market-based relationships is not sufficient to break the domination of the larger players. Unless you can replicate those localized economies on a global scale and starve the corporate beasts, you haven’t achieved much. That is a larger political task that also needs to be in the mix. It’s seems like a valid point to make, even if you don’t like the confrontational Marxist approach.

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By: David de Ugarte https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-day-why-small-scale-alternatives-wont-change-the-world/2013/01/29/comment-page-1#comment-505445 Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:24:22 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=29159#comment-505445 100% with Kevin point of view

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By: Kevin Carson https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-day-why-small-scale-alternatives-wont-change-the-world/2013/01/29/comment-page-1#comment-504578 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:08:35 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=29159#comment-504578 Amazing that someone with his head stuck in all the technological assumptions of Galbraith/Chandler World, ca. 1960, accuses decentralists of “not understanding economics.”

These liberals use “economies of scale” like creationists use the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

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By: Todd S. https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-day-why-small-scale-alternatives-wont-change-the-world/2013/01/29/comment-page-1#comment-504330 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:25:57 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=29159#comment-504330 Marxists always seem to say the same things. “We can’t do that because it won’t work. We must do as we’ve always done, because even though that hasn’t worked, it might someday. Maybe. Possibly. But I’ve staked my entire academic career on it working, so it really has to. Someday.” This author seems to assume that the goal of localism is to preserve the modern nation-state and the whole notion of “progress == growth”. In doing so, it feels like the whole thing is a straw man.

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By: Øyvind Holmstad https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/book-of-the-day-why-small-scale-alternatives-wont-change-the-world/2013/01/29/comment-page-1#comment-504205 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:20 +0000 http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=29159#comment-504205 What came to my mind is the Alexandrine pattern 87.

Pattern 87, Individually Owned Shops:

“When shops are too large, or controlled by absentee owners, they become plastic, bland, and abstract.

Therefore:

Do what you can to encourage the development of individually owned shops. Approve applications for business licenses only if the business is owned by those people who actually work and manage the store. Approve new commercial building permits only if the proposed structure includes many very very small rental spaces.

The profit motive creates a tendency for shops to become larger. But the larger they become, the less personal their service is, and the harder it is for other small shops to survive. Soon, the shops in the economy are almost entirely controlled by chain stores and franchises.

The franchises are doubly vicious. They create the image of individual ownership; they give a man who doesn’t have enough capital to start his own store the chance to run a store that seems like his; and they spread like wildfire. But they create even more plastic, bland, and abstract services. The individual managers have almost no control over the goods they sell, the food they serve; policies are tightly controlled; the personal quality of individually owned shops is altogether broken down.

Communities can only get this personal quality back if they prohibit all forms of franchise and chain stores, place limits on the actual size of stores in a community, and prohibit absentee owners from owning shops. In short, they must do what they can to keep the wealth generated by the local community in the hands of that community.

Even then, it will not be possible to maintain this pattern unless the size of the shop spaces available for rent is small. One of the biggest reasons for the rise of large, nationally owned franchises is that the financial risk of starting a business are so enormous for the average individual. The failure of a single owner’s business can be catastrophic for him personally; and it happens, in large part because he can’t afford the rent. Many hundreds of tiny shops, with low rents, will keep the initial risk for a shop keeper who is starting, to a minimum.

Shops of Morocco, India, Peru, and the older parts of older towns, are often no more than 50 square feet in area. Just room for a person and some merchandise – but plenty big enough.” — Pattern 87, A Pattern Language by Christopher Alexander, page 432 – 434.

Please note that A Pattern Language has beautiful pictures illustrating this pattern.

In Norway now small shops owned by the merchant itself is only found among immigrants or on the most remote places, like Å, as far as you can get out in the ocean on the archipelago of Lofoten.

A serious state providing real welfare to its people needs to protect patterns like this with law, to give its people real dignity as real owners of their own small stores, to protect them from capitalist monsters like Wall-Mart and so on.

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